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Subject: Re: christmas-tournament 2003: will movei beat Fritz8 ??

Author: Georg v. Zimmermann

Date: 13:06:55 12/05/03

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I didnt realize moveI has become that strong, congratulations !

Is the current version available ?

Georg


On December 05, 2003 at 14:59:54, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 05, 2003 at 12:54:00, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>On December 05, 2003 at 10:40:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>>W Ke2 Rb1 Be3 Nc3g5 a5f4g4
>>>>B Kf7 Rc8 Bf8 Nd6g6 a7b6c7e7g7
>>>>
>>>>white moved
>>>>
>>>>31...Ke8
>>>>
>>>>Fritz8 considers Rxb3 with -1.19
>>>
>>>I am happy to hear that it gets a better position.
>>>
>>>Fritz is better and I do not think that movei is a good endgame player so it
>>>will certainly be a surprise if movei can win.
>>>
>>>I guess that something in the position may be wrong because
>>>Rxb3 suggests that there is a piece at b3.
>>
>>i guess there was also a pawn on b3.
>>
>>I will later post the whole game.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I see that movei is 2 pawns up.
>>>How did it happen?
>>
>>Fritz played not good.
>>i did not see the whole game. I started the autoplayer and when i later
>>came to the computers i was very astonished myself.
>>
>>I will post the whole game later this evening.
>>I hope you can stand this :-))
>
>I guess that the game was finished in movei's win from your words inspite of the
>fact that you did not say it directly.
>
>>
>>BTW: from watching the game, or the few moves and computations i saw, it did NOT
>>looked that Fritz was stronger. The evaluations and the way it made progress in
>>the iterations related between the 2 programs showed that movei was really good.
>>
>>did you ever tested the program on that level (40/120 , 20/60) ?
>>Or do you normally play faster time controls ??
>
>I usually test faster time control but I know that movei has not a lot of
>knowledge in it's static evaluation.
>
>I also know that improvement in the search that are relevant for all time
>controls are still not implemented.
>
>40/120 40/120 is ok for it but I am afraid that there may be problems with
>40/120 20/60.
>
>The slowest time control that it is tested is 40/40 in WBEC on faster hardware
>and so far it has 8 out of 14 in the second division in
>http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/
>
>I am sure that it is weaker than Fritz8 but in one game everything can happen.
>I expect it to fight against the last place with programs like postmodernist or
>wildcat.
>
>Uri



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