Author: Amir Ban
Date: 17:16:49 12/05/03
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On December 04, 2003 at 22:25:38, Matthew Hull wrote: >On December 04, 2003 at 20:54:23, Thomas Mayer wrote: > >>Hi Matthew, >> >>> I think it is constructive, if only to inform those who think the status quo >>> is just fine that perhaps they should re-think their position. It is not >>> constructive in the ultimate sense because the ICGA really don't give a shit. >>> :) >> >>nonsense, nobody says that the status quo is good - it would be nice to have a >>WCCC at the US - but there are no sponsors ! For the US-public since the Deep >>Blue debacle chess is solved by the computers - nobody wants to invest on it... >>disprove me please, > >That's not it. See below... > >>but for now I have seen just some hot air in this forum >>about CC-events in the US, but nothing ever happend the last few years... change >>it, I can't do it... > > >I don't know for sure, but I get the impression that the old ICCA did not >require others to organize the sponsorship for an event. Before the charter got >changed, the event alternated geographically yet the sponsorhips still >materialized. In those days, it was run by Americans who made sure the charter >included Europe to encourage research on that continent. Now it's run by >Europeans who have now changed the charter and the emphasis and the ideals. >Americans went out of their way to include Europe. Europeans go out of their >way it seems to exclude America. > The charter could also have said "every chess programmer will be happy, rich and live to 105." It's not enforceable. Of course the USA/Europe alternation clause meant "when possible". For the ICCA to even start talking to anyone, there needs to be someone who wants to organize the event. The sponsors come later, and it's usually the organizers who go out and find them. You are wasting your time complaining here. Go and convince someone to organize the event. Find a mayor or a university dean and convince him that he wants the event to come to him. Mayors are often particularly good at raising, often from people who don't even know how a chessboard look like, but will open their wallets if the mayor says it's important. If possible, look for places where a budget already exists for such cultural events (as in Graz. By all means tell the potential organizer about the raw deal you are getting from the shady Europeans and how America will definitely be champion if only the event is not on Thanksgiving. The patriotic angle is a powerful way to convince, lay it on thick. Good luck. Amir >That is the real sticking point, IMO. The changing of the charter changed the >entire spirit of the event. Now, if someone wants the event in their country, >they must go hat-in-hand, begging and forking over egregious sums of money. >What kind of spirit is that? The ICGA set themselves up as the keeper of a >scarce resource, and those who want some of it must pay up. That's bullshit in >my book. That's not what a non-profit organization should be about. > >As a result of these changes the event no longer makes any sense. They refuse >to modernize up to auot-play, and all the cost benefits that go with it. They >make the event a great long swiss tourney with too many superfluous rounds, >which wastes the time and money of the participants. They run the events like a >bunch of high-school dropouts, even breaking their own rules. Arrrrrrggghhhh! > >It's tough to see an up-side here. It is probably best that the CCT events >start to take over as the WCCC gradually suffocates of it's own incompetence. > >IMHO, of course. > >Regards, >Matt > > >> >>Greets, Thomas
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