Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 17:37:20 12/05/03
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On December 04, 2003 at 11:24:27, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote: >On December 02, 2003 at 10:13:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 02, 2003 at 01:10:24, Johan de Koning wrote: >> >>>On December 01, 2003 at 11:24:20, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On December 01, 2003 at 10:14:20, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>> >>>>>http://www.icga.org/News/events/wccc2004/BarIlan.pdf >>>>> >>>>>12th World Computer Chess Championship >>>>>Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel >>>>>July 4th-12th 2004 >>>> >>>>July 4. >>>> >>>>What a bunch of morons. >>>> >>>>:) >>> >>>Given the smiley I'll grant you the benefit of the doubt, but in Global English >>>it still is equivalent to "the ICGA board is a collection of [BLEEP]ing idiots". >> >>Let me be more specific, since it was apparently not clear enough: >> >>"the people running the tournament in Graz were a bunch of [BLEEP]ing >>idiots". >> >>Most of that falling squarely on the TD I assume, although I was not present. >> >> >> >>> >>>I know you know the I in ICGA and the W in WCCC. >> >>Yes. "I" somehow equates to "European".. >> >>This organization is _really_ the ECGA, not the ICGA. And the WCCC is really >>the ECCC. World events are held all over the world. Continental events are >>held on a specific continent. >> >>>And I hope you know that 98% of this world's population does not care about >>>TG-day, nor about I-day, nor about Halloween, nor about UAb classes. >> >> >>This isn't about "UAB classes". It is about taking off for 1.5 weeks from >>_any_ job, spending a lot of money to trave, for room and food, and doing >>it _every_ year/ every 3 years, since these events are _never_ held outside >>Europe. There are other continents on this planet. But my stand here is well >>known and won't change anything, except that something will come along to >>replace ECGA with something containing a real I.. even if I means Internet. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Think about the math: there's no way you can schedule an event without depriving >>>at least someone of his favorite cultural event with only 365 >>>weeks in a year. For 1-day weeks that is. >> >> >>That is only a small issue. July 4 is minor. 1.5 weeks is major. Flying >>half-way around the world to attend any ECGA event is expensive. _those_ >>are the main points. Let's not turn this into a holiday issue exclusively. >> >>However, holidays _are_ important. And it is not hard to make a list >>to include Christmas (world), Thanksgiving (USA), July 4 (USA), Boxing Day >>(England at least, don't know how widespread), and so forth. Mark those >>days _OFF_. There are plenty left. And there are other holidays that need >>to be avoided from other countries as well. Conferences do this _all_ the >>time. The ECGA could also, with a little thought. > >Every major chess open in US are played during holidays, Memorial Day, July 4th, >Labor day, Christmas etc. >The only one that is not touched is thanksgiving. I have _never_ seen a US Open played on Christmas. As I said, Christmas and Thanksgiving are two historical family holiday periods over here. But the holidays are a _minor_ part of this. IE I won't buy a Ford F350 truck because (a) it is too big; (b) it is too expensive; (c) I don't tow loads heavy enough to require something that size; (d) .. (e) ... (f) I don't like the color. Color is not _the_ issue. It is just "a" issue. I've bought more than one new vehicle where I did not completely like the color. But I did like the size, cost, performance, options, etc... That's what I mean by "holidays are not generally a deal-breaker" if you stay off Thanksgiving and Christmas. 1.5 weeks is the _big_ deal-breaker for me. > >Miguel > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>No doubt the 2005 event will be on December 25. >>> >>>An excellent excuse to avoid the end-of-year nuisance. >>> >>>>Is the ICCA going to supply flak jackets or do participants have to bring >>>>their own? >>> >>>You know damned well the ICGA can't afford to supply flakjacks for every >>>participant, and you know damned well that's the reason there will not be an >>>I or W event in the US. :-D >> >>Yes there is. Because the ECGA is really not interested in hosting an event >>over here, because suddenly _they_ might have to travel a bit more? But I'm >>not that concerned myself. The CCT events are growing in popularity and the >>ECGA events are waning. If nobody wants to turn that around, that is fine by >>me. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>... Johan
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