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Subject: Re: Dr. Hyatt: Does Crafty 19.6 have more knowledge than preceding versi

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 21:12:38 12/07/03

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On December 07, 2003 at 23:30:56, Jay Urbanski wrote:

>For a dual processor system, Opteron is the fastest.
>
>Opteron 2.2GHz
>http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2003q4/cpu2000-20031117-02634.html
>
>Crafty base ratio 35.0
>
>Itanium 1.5GHz
>
>http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2003q3/cpu2000-20030711-02391.html
>
>Crafty base ratio 28.4
>
>This of course doesn't take advantage of all the NUMA stuff you just put into
>19.6.

NUMA stuff will not change runtime of 4 independent Crafty copies with any
decent OS.

>It also doesn't take into account the factor of at least 3 price differential
>between the two, or the fact that there isn't a whole lot of software written
>for Itanium out there.

I don't believe there is 3x price difference between Opteron and Itanium
systems, at least for quad ones.

I also don't think there is lot of software written for Opteron out there as
well. I think the opposite is true -- there is more native Itanium software than
there is native Opteron software :-)

I have both quad Itanium2 and Opteron in my office. For Crafty Opteron is
somewhat faster -- after lot of work. Without that work single-CPU Opteron was
faster than single-CPU Itanium2, but quad Itanium2 was faster than quad Opteron.

Lot of bright people worked to speed up Crafty on Opteron, including lead
developers of NT :-) Not sure that some arbitrary application will have such
attention.

You can look at TPC-C results for quad Opteron and Itanium systems. I think you
would be surprised. You can also look at the TPC-C results for Opteron with more
than 4 CPUs -- and please let me know when you'll find those results.

Thanks,
Eugene



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