Author: Komputer Korner
Date: 11:45:45 11/19/98
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On November 19, 1998 at 03:41:51, Komputer Korner wrote: >On November 17, 1998 at 12:44:58, Francois Bertin wrote: > >>On November 16, 1998 at 13:14:30, Komputer Korner wrote: >> >>>On November 12, 1998 at 17:26:09, Francois Bertin wrote: >>> >>>>On November 12, 1998 at 15:40:45, greg moller wrote: >>>> >>>>>Reading KKorner's review I got the impression that Rebel10 'does not support >>>>>transpositions'... Can anybody attempt to clarify this statement ? It would seem >>>>>odd for a program that boasts such a tremendous book to fail to recognize >>>>>transpositions. >> >>>> Yes, it does. When I enter my games in Rebel for analysis or storing >>>>purposes, I am generally in the program's book for several moves, >>>>and then the game gets out of it. However, a few moves later Rebel's >>>>book often shows up again with suggestions. This, I believe, is a book >>>>transposition. When I red KK's review of Rebel 10, I was puzzled by his >>>>statement about the absence of transposition. Perhaps he meant books >>>>made by the user and not Rebel's original opening book. I have not yet >>>>noticed a transposition in a user-made book, either in the MVS or RBM >>>>format, but then I have not worked much with such books. I am just >>>>beginning to dwelve into that aspect of the program with books I have >>>>made about the King's Gambit Muzio, King's Bishop Gambit and Albin's >>>>Counter Gambit... :-) >> >>>Rebel will recognize only transpositions that have specifically been inputted by >>>it's authors. Any other transposition is not recognized by Rebel. Contrast this >>>with the ctg files that can be used as opening books within Fritz 5 and Junior >>>5. They recognize all transpositions and I do mean ALL. >> >> In a recent post, Ed Schröder alluded to the possibility that future >>versions of Rebel would have their opening book solely based on the >>EOC database. He seemed to think that one of the positive aspects of >>this would be to improve the learning process of the program. Perhaps >>transposition possibilities would also be markedly improved? >> >> François Bertin > >It may improve the transpositional awareness some but GMs are forever tricking >their opponents in heretofore unseen transpositions. The only sure way is to >have a position based book structure like Bookup, CDB and Fritz/Junior >ChessBase files have. >-- >Komputer Korner I should mention that only the Chessbase7/Fritz5/Junior5/Nimzo 99 ctg files show unplayed transpositions. -- Komputer Korner
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