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Subject: Re: CM8 to CM9 custom personality converter

Author: Matt Thomas

Date: 21:04:22 12/08/03

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On December 08, 2003 at 08:53:26, Luis Smith wrote:

>On December 08, 2003 at 02:59:27, Matt Thomas wrote:
>
>>On December 07, 2003 at 06:53:58, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>On December 07, 2003 at 06:25:58, Matt Thomas wrote:
>>>
>>>>When I upgraded from ChessMaster 8000 to 9000 I noticed that I could not use my
>>>>CM8k custom personalities that I created in CM9k.  Rather than suffer the
>>>>dissapointment I decided to create a program that would convert them over to the
>>>>new CM9k format.  I have succeeded in creating a program that will do this and
>>>>it will also copy over any of the opening books that do not already exist in the
>>>>CM9k opening book directory.  I created it in VB6 and tested it on Win98se and
>>>>XP and it works. The program with help file and one support file is about 450kb
>>>>zipped.  If anyone has an interest in it or can think of a place where I could
>>>>upload it let me know please, thanks.  BTW its free to a good home.  -matt
>>>
>>>    That's fine. But in principle it does not make much sense
>>>    to use the CM8k-settings for CM9-GUI as the internal default
>>>    params of the new engine are no longer identical. Or in other
>>>    words: a strong CM8-setting may be nothing worth under CM9k.
>>>    Kurt
>>
>>All the original settings from CM8k are found in CM9k except for 5 settings that
>>track the opponent's center, mobility, king safety, pawn position, and pawn
>>weakness; and a use endgame tb setting.  These new settings are matched to the
>>AI settings for the imported players.  Selective search is deeper in CM9k.  The
>>range of each of the matching settings are identical.  The custom opponents from
>>CM8k should play with the same style in CM9k.  One of the reasons for creating a
>>custom player is to play against a different style.  I have a lot of custom
>>players in CM8k and wanted to be able to bring them into CM9k more easily.  I
>>made this mostly for my own need, but thought it would be nice if someone else
>>wanted to use it.  Feel free to not want to use it though...  -matt
>
>Hi Matt,
>
>   While all of this is true, perhaps Johan changed some of the internal weights
>which will affect play.  Although certainly an interesting tool, I don't think
>many people would have a use for it.

I do like the playing style of my custom CM8k personalities when played in CM9k.
 So I am glad I made it. If someone else finds it useful as well then I am even
more glad.  Sure, I agree that many, maybe even most people won't be interested
in it.  Admittedly I made it to serve my own interests. But I offer it as a free
program for those who own both CM8k an CM9k and have an interest in using it.  I
just want to share.  I don't mean to sound argumentive and I appreciate your
correspondence and respect yours and others views.  I just have strong opinions
at times.  I hope that my next project will appeal to more people.  Its going to
be a chess engine.  -matt



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