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Subject: Re: Warning: Crafty 19.06 Chessbase Native Sucks

Author: Mark Young

Date: 23:31:35 12/08/03

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On December 08, 2003 at 14:33:05, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On December 08, 2003 at 14:12:50, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>Test results Crafty 19.06-Hiarcs 9:
>>
>>Crafty 19.06 (DC) - Hiarcs 9    88,5 - 161,5   (+44 =89 -117)
>>                               (35,4%) (64,6%)   250 games
>>
>>Crafty 19.06 (CB) - Hiarcs 9    77,0 - 173,0   (+29 =96 -125)
>>                               (30,8%) (69,2%)   250 games
>
>This still could be explained by random fluctuation and a bit of bad luck. A
>Monte Carlo simulation (assuming independent games, of course - no learning
>etc.) shows (I made up some number, parameters are for the first match:
>88.5-161.5):

My first results back up his results. Crafty native is not very strong.

Played at 15min 10sec incs. 256mb hash, 3ghz P4

                    123456789012345678901234
   Shredder 7.04    111½10½½111½11½111011111 19.5/24
   Crafty 19.06     000½01½½000½00½000100000  4.5/24





>
>Result of chess matches
>Player A as white wins 18.8%, draws 38.3% and loses 43.0%
>Player A as black wins 16.4%, draws 32.8% and loses 50.8%
>Expected result: 35.34% (as white 37.89%, as black 32.79%)
>A match of 250 games was simulated 1000000 times by a Monte Carlo method
>
>               result        probability        p <= res.         p > res.
>[...]
> 76.5 - 173.5 ( 30.6%):          0.4525%          2.3652%         97.6348%
> 77.0 - 173.0 ( 30.8%):          0.5323%          2.8975%         97.1025%
>                                                  ^^^^^^^
> 77.5 - 172.5 ( 31.0%):          0.6123%          3.5098%         96.4902%
>[...]
> 87.0 - 163.0 ( 34.8%):          3.3196%         42.8417%         57.1583%
> 87.5 - 162.5 ( 35.0%):          3.3460%         46.1877%         53.8123%
> 88.0 - 162.0 ( 35.2%):          3.3515%         49.5392%         50.4608%
> 88.5 - 161.5 ( 35.4%):          3.3856%         52.9248%         47.0752%
> 89.0 - 161.0 ( 35.6%):          3.3451%         56.2699%         43.7301%
> 89.5 - 160.5 ( 35.8%):          3.3444%         59.6143%         40.3857%
> 90.0 - 160.0 ( 36.0%):          3.2545%         62.8688%         37.1312%
>[...]
>Average result of simulation 35.3376%
>
>So still around 3% probability for a result of 77-173 or worse, when the real
>strength is assumed 88.5-161.5.
>
>>Crafty 19.06 (DC) - Hiarcs 9 TC 74,5 - 125,5   (+39 =71 -90)
>>                               (37,3%) (62,7%)   200 games
>
>This is a different setup for Hiarcs only?
>
>Regards,
>Dieter



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