Author: Amir Ban
Date: 15:01:10 12/09/03
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On December 09, 2003 at 10:02:43, Sune Fischer wrote: >On December 09, 2003 at 09:49:47, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: > >>On December 09, 2003 at 09:25:55, Sune Fischer wrote: >> >>>I think the logic is quite clear, Jonny lost on purpose because he didn't feel >>>Shredder should lose the WCCC due to a silly bug: >>> >>>"Apparently the Shredder interface contained a bug which allowed it to repeat >>>postitions in a totally winning position. The program Jonny had seen this and >>>claimed the draw (while displaying a 0.00 score). But as Johannes Zwanzger >later said on the Playchess.com server: "I did not want to draw the game in >>>this way against Stefan, just because his program has a bug." So he had simply >>>executed the move on the board, entered Shredder's reply and continued with >>>the game." >>> >>>So basicly "Jonny" (the engine) saw Shredder had bugged out and instantly >>>punished it by going for the repetition. >> >>Your version of the facts is wrong on several accounts: >> >>1) The bug was not in the Shredder interface or if it was, that wasn't >>critical since it's the engine that repeated the position, not the interface. > >I just quoted that from chessbase (from the link posted), I suspect it was the >engine also. >If it can somehow be documented it was in fact the interface, maybe that would >change things since Shredder would technicly be innocient. > >>2) The engine Jonny had not claimed a draw (it didn't know about 3 fold >>repetition), only the ChessBase GUI that Mr. Zwanzger was using informed >>that the position was repeated 3 times. > >It had a draw score and played the drawing moves, so its intention was clear. >The engine wanted the draw and the operator didn't allow it, that's the way I >see it. > >Maybe the reason for the engine not claiming the repetition itself is because >it's playing in a GUI that does it for it. > >Imagine the dilemma poor Jonny must have faced here, I'm glad it wasn't me that >had to choose between being a good sport and grabbing an extra half point. > He chose a third course: he went to the TD, told him the interface was announcing 3-fold repetition, and asked for permission to continue playing. However, the TD did not understand his question at the time. Amir >I think the rules should protect operators in the future so they don't feel >obligated to throw the game in this manner. > >my 0.02, >-S. >>-- >>GCP
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