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Subject: Re: Shredder wins in Graz after controversy

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 06:22:24 12/10/03

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On December 09, 2003 at 23:58:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 09, 2003 at 23:36:18, Bob Durrett wrote:
>
>>On December 09, 2003 at 23:28:47, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On December 09, 2003 at 21:43:01, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Yes, I know, and I don't agree with this decision. Bloody stubborn and yes proud
>>>>embarrassed humans! Contempt for computers is obvious, the other side of the
>>>>issue.
>>>>
>>>>Terry
>>>
>>>It really doesn't have anything to do with computers.  It has everything to
>>>do with not wanting to play a game that might last an extra 100 moves even
>>>though the opponent _really_ doesn't know how to win.  He just wants to play
>>>on because he might stumble onto the right idea...
>>
>>If the computer announces mate in 73, that might be worth verifying.
>>
>>: )
>>
>>Bob D.
>
>
>You can't do that during a tournament game.  The TD will kick you out in
>a heartbeat if you (the operator) start relaying such claims.  It is considered
>rude and obnoxious to announce a mate...  not to mention distracting and
>contrary to FIDE chess rules...  IE you can't offer a draw every move
>either...

Interesting.

I was thinking about a situation where the tournament director is considering
terminating a game and adjudicating so the tournament could move on to the next
round, staying within the overall tournament schedule.  Sometimes the facility
is rented and there is an obligation to the landlord to vacate the facility at
some point in time.  The presence of a "mate in xxx" on a display should be
taken into account during adjudication.  If xxx is more than 50, then the
tournament director would have to decide what to do about the 50-move rule.

In "silicon vs silicon" tournaments with human operators, I would think that
there would be no restrictions at all on conversations between operators.  In
fact, I would expect all humans present to be "observers" and free to move
around in the tournament hall and talk and laugh and even make smelly noises!

The "silicon vs silicon" tournaments may be serious competitions in the "minds"
of the silicon competitors, but for the humans it is just a fun social event.

: )

Bob D.



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