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Subject: Re: move 37 in Graz controversial game

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:33:41 12/10/03

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On December 10, 2003 at 17:15:55, K. Burcham wrote:

>
>I cannot get shredder to play the game move of 37.Rg4 that allows black to play
>third move of repitition.
>did not know this was a mate in X move.
>after making the third move of the repitition, shredder shows eval of 0.
>so stefan knew when the third move of the repitition was made, his eval went
>from a mte in x to 0.


I don't believe so.  IE had his engine seen a score of 0.0, it would simply
have played a different move that led to mate.  This appears to be a bug.  I
would suspect in the parallel search.  Handling draws there is pretty messy
if you  are not careful.


>
>
>Next move 37.Rg4 allows black to play Kh7 for third move of repetition
> [D] 1rr3k1/p4q2/3Q4/8/4p2R/2p5/PPP1B2P/1K6 w - -
>
>shredder avoids Rg4 and plays 37.Bc4 showing mate in 36
>
> Shredder 7.04
>
> 14/40	 2:24 	+16.05++	37.Bc4 Rxc4 38.Qxb8+ Qf8 39.Rg4+ Kh7 40.Qxf8 cxb2 41.Kxb2
>e3 42.Rxc4 e2 43.Qf5+ Kg8 44.Rc7 e1Q 45.Qc8+ (75.633.523) 525.2
> 14/40	 3:33 	  +M37	37.Bc4 Rxb2+ 38.Kc1 Rb1+ 39.Kxb1 Rb8+ 40.Qxb8+ Kg7 41.Bxf7
>Kf6 42.Rxe4 a5 (114.618.574) 538.1
> 15/19	 3:34 	  +M37	37.Bc4 Rxb2+ 38.Kc1 Rb1+ 39.Kxb1 Rb8+ 40.Qxb8+ Kg7 41.Bxf7
>Kf6 42.Rxe4 a5 (115.112.751) 537.7
> 16/28	 3:37 	  +M37	37.Bc4 Rc6 38.Qxb8+ Kg7 39.Bxf7 Kxf7 40.Qb7+ Rc7 41.Qxc7+
>Kg6 42.Qc6+ Kf7 43.bxc3 Kg7 44.Rxe4 (116.846.667) 536.0
> 17/25	 3:55 	  +M37	37.Bc4 Rc6 38.Qxb8+ Kg7 39.Bxf7 Kxf7 40.Qb7+ Rc7 41.Qxc7+
>Kg6 42.Qc6+ Kf7 43.bxc3 Kg7 44.Rxe4 (125.101.403) 532.2
> 18/28	 4:04 	  +M37	37.Bc4 Rc6 38.Qxb8+ Kg7 39.Bxf7 Kxf7 40.Qb7+ Rc7 41.Qxc7+
>Kg6 42.Qc6+ Kf7 43.bxc3 Kg7 44.Rxe4 (129.696.435) 529.9
> 19/36	 4:29 	  +M36	37.Bc4 Rxb2+ 38.Kc1 Rb1+ 39.Kxb1 Rxc4 40.Qd8+ Qf8 41.Rg4+
>Kf7 42.Rf4+ Ke6 43.Rxf8 Rd4 44.Qxd4 e3 (141.410.179) 525.1
> 20/38	 4:53 	  +M36	37.Bc4 Rxb2+ 38.Kc1 Rb1+ 39.Kxb1 Rxc4 40.Qd8+ Qf8 41.Rg4+
>Kf7 42.Rf4+ Ke6 43.Rxf8 Rd4 44.Qxd4 e3 (152.882.315) 520.2
> 21/44	 6:20 	  +M36	37.Bc4 Rxb2+ 38.Kc1 Rxc4 39.Qd8+ Qf8 40.Rg4+ Kf7 41.Rf4+
>Ke6 42.Rxf8 Rb1+ 43.Kxb1 a6 (193.228.232) 508.4
> 22/45	11:36 	  +M36	37.Bc4 Rxb2+ 38.Kc1 Rxc4 39.Qd8+ Qf8 40.Rg4+ Kf7 41.Rf4+
>Kg6 42.Qxf8 Rb1+ 43.Kxb1 Rb4+ 44.Qxb4 a5 45.Qxc3 Kg5 46.Rxe4 (346.535.320) 497.2
> 23/47	19:48 	  +M36	37.Bc4 Rxb2+ 38.Kc1 Rxc4 39.Qd8+ Qf8 40.Rg4+ Kf7 41.Rf4+
>Kg6 42.Qxf8 Rb1+ 43.Kxb1 Rb4+ 44.Qxb4 a5 45.Qxc3 Kg5 46.Rxe4 (583.180.192) 490.5
>
>
>after playing the game move of 37.Rg4, shredder shows draw score of 0.
> [D] 1rr3k1/p4q2/3Q4/8/4p1R1/2p5/PPP1B2P/1K6 b - -
>
> 15/15	 0:00 	 0.00 	37...Kh7 38.Rh4+ (310.477) 441.6
> 16/16	 0:01 	 0.00 	37...Kh7 38.Rh4+ (627.214) 441.0
> 17/17	 0:02 	 0.00 	37...Kh7 38.Rh4+ (1.271.107) 442.1
> 18/18	 0:05 	 0.00 	37...Kh7 38.Rh4+ (2.463.343) 442.8
> 19/19	 0:11 	 0.00 	37...Kh7 38.Rh4+ (4.993.538) 445.7
> 20/20	 0:22 	 0.00 	37...Kh7 38.Rh4+ (10.106.882) 450.1
> 21/21	 0:45 	 0.00 	37...Kh7 38.Rh4+ (20.710.005) 454.2
> 22/22	 1:32 	 0.00 	37...Kh7 38.Rh4+ (42.389.116) 456.7
>best move: Kg8-h7 time: 2:13.156 min  n/s: 457.496  CPU 99.5%  nodes: 60.918.402
>
>Ruffian avoids 37.Rg4 and shows mate in 13
> [D] 1rr3k1/p4q2/3Q4/8/4p2R/2p5/PPP1B2P/1K6 w - -
> Ruffian 1.0.5
>
> 15/40	 2:36 	+17.65++	37.Bc4 (259.393.039) 1657.5
> 15/40	 2:51 	  +M14	37.Bc4 Rxb2+ 38.Kc1 Rxc4 39.Qd8+ Qf8 40.Rg4+ Kf7 41.Qd7+
>Qe7 42.Rf4+ Kg6 43.Qxe7 Rb1+ 44.Kxb1 Rb4+ 45.Qxb4 Kg5 46.Qxe4 a5 47.Rg4+ Kf6
>48.Rg6+ Kf7 49.Qe6+ Kf8 50.Rg8+ (284.307.945) 1659.9
> 16/41	 5:05 	  +M13	37.Bc4 Rxb2+ 38.Kc1 Rxc4 39.Qd8+ Qf8 40.Rg4+ Kf7 41.Qd7+
>Qe7 42.Rf4+ Kg6 43.Qxe7 Rb1+ 44.Kxb1 Rb4+ 45.Qxb4 Kg5 46.Qd6 Kh5 47.Rf5+ Kg4
>48.Qg6+ Kh4 49.Rh5+ (514.081.779) 1684.5



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