Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 23:02:51 12/10/03
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On December 11, 2003 at 02:00:03, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >On December 11, 2003 at 01:03:19, Harald Faber wrote: > >>On December 10, 2003 at 17:43:13, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >> >>>English with translator: >>> >>>Here 2 further games, newer date than test for DF8 and X3D Fritz. One of it is >>>even a corr. game. Even in the 5-Varation mode sees Fritz 8,0023 (X3D Fritz?) >>>not that one could beat pawn also on e4. The analysis of Shredder serves only >>>for the comparison. I have these games already longer stored, now bring I her >>>only between in it still. (I have however still more in stock if necessary?) >>> >>> >>>[Event "XVIII Open Cappelle la Grande FRA"] >>>[Site "?"] >>>[Date "2002.??.??"] >>>[Round "5"] >>>[White "Tillet, L."] >>>[Black "Jakubowski, K."] >>>[Result "1/2-1/2"] >>>[ECO "B22"] >>>[WhiteElo "2180"] >>>[BlackElo "2455"] >>>[PlyCount "112"] >>>[EventDate "2002.??.??"] >>> >>>1. e4 c5 2. c3 d6 3. d4 Nf6 4. dxc5 Nc6 5. Bc4 Nxe4 6. Bxf7+ Kxf7 7. Qh5+ Kg8 >>>8. Qd5+ e6 9. Qxe4 d5 10. Qe2 Bxc5 11. Nf3 Bd7 12. Bf4 Qf8 13. Bg3 Re8 14. Ne5 >>>Nxe5 15. Bxe5 a6 16. a4 b5 17. b3 h5 18. O-O h4 19. h3 Qf7 20. Nd2 Qh5 21. Rfe1 >>>Rf8 22. Nf3 Rh6 23. Bd4 Bd6 24. Ne5 Bxe5 25. Qxh5 Rxh5 26. Rxe5 Rxe5 27. Bxe5 >>>bxa4 28. bxa4 Rf5 29. Bc7 e5 30. Re1 d4 31. Rxe5 Rxe5 32. Bxe5 d3 33. Kf1 Bxa4 >>>34. Ke1 Bb5 35. Bc7 Kf7 36. Bd8 Ke6 37. c4 Bxc4 38. Kd2 Kd7 39. Bxh4 a5 40. Kc3 >>>a4 41. Bg5 a3 42. Bc1 a2 43. Bb2 Ke6 44. Kd2 g6 45. Ke3 Bb5 46. f4 Kd5 47. g4 >>>Kc4 48. Kd2 Bd7 49. Ba1 Bc6 50. h4 Bf3 51. f5 gxf5 52. gxf5 Bh5 53. f6 Bg6 54. >>>Bb2 Bf7 55. Ba1 Bg6 56. Bb2 Kd5 1/2-1/2 >>> >>>[D]r1bqkb1r/pp2pppp/2np1n2/2P5/2B1P3/2P5/PP3PPP/RNBQK1NR b KQkq - 0 1 >>> >>> >>> >>>Analysis by Fritz 8.0023: >>> >>>1. ² (0.34): 5...dxc5 6.Dxd8+ Sxd8 7.Sd2 Ld7 8.e5 Sg4 9.Sgf3 b5 10.Ld5 Lc6 >>>2. ² (0.34): 5...Se5 6.Le2 Sc6 7.Sd2 d5 8.exd5 Dxd5 9.Sgf3 Dxc5 10.0-0 >>>3. ² (0.37): 5...e6 6.Lg5 dxc5 7.Dxd8+ Sxd8 8.e5 Sg4 9.Sf3 Sc6 10.Lb5 Ld7 >>>4. ² (0.41): 5...Dd7 6.De2 dxc5 7.e5 Sd5 8.Sf3 a6 9.0-0 b5 10.Ld3 >>>5. ² (0.50): 5...e5 6.Sf3 dxc5 7.Dxd8+ Sxd8 8.Sbd2 Ld6 9.0-0 Lg4 10.Td1 Lxf3 >>>6. ² (0.56): 5...Sa5 6.Lb5+ Sc6 7.e5 Sd7 8.e6 fxe6 9.Le3 Dc7 10.Df3 Sxc5 >>>7. ² (0.56): 5...g6 6.cxd6 Sxe4 7.Lxf7+ Kxf7 8.Dd5+ Kg7 9.Dxe4 Lf5 10.De3 h6 >>>11.Sd2 exd6 >>>8. ² (0.56): 5...Da5 >>> >>> >>>r1bqkb1r/pp2pppp/2np1n2/2P5/2B1P3/2P5/PP3PPP/RNBQK1NR b KQkq - 0 1 >>> >>>Analysis by Shredder 7.04: >>> >>>1. = (0.00): 5...Sxe4 6.Sf3 dxc5 7.Sbd2 Sd6 8.0-0 Sxc4 9.Sxc4 Lg4 10.Le3 Dxd1 >>>11.Taxd1 Lxf3 12.gxf3 >>>2. = (0.16): 5...Se5 6.Le2 Sc6 7.Sf3 Sxe4 8.0-0 Sxc5 9.Lg5 Lg4 >>>3. ² (0.29): 5...e6 6.Sf3 Sxe4 7.cxd6 Lxd6 8.Dc2 Sf6 9.0-0 0-0 10.Td1 >>>4. ² (0.29): 5...dxc5 6.Dxd8+ Sxd8 7.Sd2 Le6 8.Lb5+ Ld7 9.Lxd7+ Sxd7 10.Sgf3 e6 >>>5. ² (0.40): 5...Dd7 6.Sf3 Sxe4 7.0-0 Sxc5 >>>6. ² (0.61): 5...Sa5 6.Lb5+ Sc6 7.f3 e5 8.Se2 dxc5 9.Lxc6+ bxc6 10.Dxd8+ Kxd8 >>>11.0-0 >>>7. ² (0.64): 5...g6 6.Sf3 Sxe4 7.Dd5 Le6 8.Dxe4 d5 9.Lxd5 Dxd5 10.Dxd5 Lxd5 >>>8. ² (0.64): 5...Tb8 6.Sf3 Sxe4 7.Dd5 Le6 8.Dxe4 d5 9.Lxd5 Dxd5 10.Dxd5 Lxd5 >> >> >>What about 5...Nxe4 6.Bxf7 again? Still a position which black should try to >>reach? Personally, I doubt that... >> >> >>>[Event "corr"] >>>[Site "?"] >>>[Date "1999.??.??"] >>>[Round "?"] >>>[White "Redmond, PC."] >>>[Black "Bennett, Tony"] >>>[Result "0-1"] >>>[ECO "B00"] >>>[PlyCount "40"] >>>[EventDate "1999.??.??"] >>> >>>1. e4 Nc6 2. Bc4 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. Bxf7+ Kxf7 5. Qh5+ Kg8 6. Qd5+ e6 7. Qxe4 >>>Qf6 8. Nf3 d5 9. Qd3 Bd6 10. Bg5 Nb4 11. Qe2 Qg6 12. Na3 b6 13. O-O Ba6 14. Qd2 >>>Rf8 15. Ne5 Bxe5 16. dxe5 Bxf1 17. Rxf1 c5 18. c3 Nc6 19. f4 Qh5 20. Qe1 h6 0-1 >>> >>> >>>Redmond,P - Bennett,T >>> >>>[D]r1bqkb1r/pppppppp/2n2n2/8/2BPP3/8/PPP2PPP/RNBQK1NR b KQkq d3 0 1 >>> >>>Analysis by Fritz 8.0023: >>> >>>1. = (0.03): 3...d5 4.exd5 Sxd5 5.Sf3 Lg4 6.0-0 Dd6 7.h3 Lh5 8.Te1 0-0-0 9.Dd3 >>>2. = (0.25): 3...d6 4.Sc3 e6 5.Sf3 d5 6.exd5 exd5 7.Lb5 a6 8.Lxc6+ bxc6 9.0-0 >>>Le7 >>>3. = (0.25): 3...e5 4.d5 Sb8 5.Sf3 Lc5 6.0-0 d6 7.Lg5 Lg4 8.Lb5+ Sbd7 9.Sbd2 >>>4. ² (0.44): 3...b5 4.Lxb5 Sxe4 5.d5 Sb8 6.Ld3 Sf6 7.c4 e6 8.dxe6 >>>5. ² (0.34): 3...e6 4.e5 Sd5 5.Sf3 d6 6.0-0 dxe5 7.Sxe5 Sxe5 8.dxe5 Lc5 9.Sd2 >>>6. ² (0.34): 3...h6 4.e5 d5 5.Le2 Se4 6.Sf3 Lg4 7.0-0 e6 8.Sbd2 >>>7. ² (0.44): 3...Sa5 4.Ld3 Sc6 5.e5 Sd5 6.Le4 Sb6 7.Se2 d5 8.Ld3 >>>8. ² (0.59): 3...a6 >>> >>>Redmond,P - Bennett,T >>>r1bqkb1r/pppppppp/2n2n2/8/2BPP3/8/PPP2PPP/RNBQK1NR b KQkq d3 0 1 >>> >>>Analysis by Shredder 7.04: >>> >>>1. ³ (-0.47): 3...Sxe4 4.Lxf7+ Kxf7 5.Dh5+ Kg8 6.Dd5+ e6 7.Dxe4 d5 8.De3 Sb4 >>>9.Sa3 e5 >>>2. = (0.19): 3...e5 4.Sf3 exd4 5.0-0 Lc5 6.e5 Sg4 7.Lg5 Le7 8.Lxe7 >>>3. = (0.22): 3...d6 4.Sc3 Sxe4 5.Lxf7+ Kxf7 6.Sxe4 Lf5 7.Sg3 e6 8.Sxf5 exf5 9.d5 >>>Se5 >>>4. ² (0.40): 3...e6 4.e5 d5 5.Ld3 Sd7 6.Sf3 Le7 7.0-0 h5 >>>5. ² (0.45): 3...d5 4.exd5 Sxd5 5.Sf3 Lg4 6.0-0 e6 7.Lb5 Df6 8.Lxc6+ bxc6 9.Sbd2 >>>6. ² (0.51): 3...h6 4.e5 d5 5.Lb5 Se4 6.f3 Sg5 7.Se2 e6 8.Sbc3 Le7 9.0-0 >>>7. ² (0.67): 3...g6 4.e5 Sh5 5.Sc3 d6 6.exd6 Lg7 7.Sf3 0-0 8.dxc7 Dxc7 >>>8. ² (0.63): 3...Sa5 4.Ld3 Sc6 5.Sf3 d5 6.e5 Se4 7.Sbd2 Lf5 8.0-0 e6 9.Sxe4 >>> >>>Eduard >> >> >>Also in this second example Bxf7 as response to Nxe4 is possible. Therefore I >>doubt again that this is the best line black can play. Some funny guys say "I'm >>wondering about the wanderking" (Ich wundere mich über den Wanderkönig) in my >>club to such unnecessary (!) king actions. :-) >> >>BTW you got the same questions to your other recent post about a similar >>position. You didn't answer. I wonder why. > >Do You cannotunderstand my message, or need You does not understand? > >I ask myself seriously Harald whether you my Message (see the answer of Peter >Ackermann, where he explains it beautifully, further down in message) simply not >to understand want? > >German: > >Ich frage mich ernsthaft Harald, ob Du meine Message (schau die Antwort von >Peter Ackermann, wo er es schön erklärt, weiter unten in einer message) einfach >nicht verstehen willst? > >E. Look here: http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?334781 .
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