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Subject: Re: Ruffian 2.0 Won Arena Tourney #6 Ahead of Shrerdder 7.04

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 01:12:48 12/11/03

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On December 11, 2003 at 03:53:39, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 11, 2003 at 03:24:53, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>On December 10, 2003 at 16:56:55, Johan Havegheer wrote:
>>
>>Hi Johan,
>>
>>Ruffian 2.0.0 won by a narrow margin (2 1/2 points).
>>
>>>What if Shredder 7.04 uses his own book instead of a random generated Arena book ??
>>
>>Arena Chess GUI have a great and new option!
>>PGN Random!
>>You have a PGN database, like the database by Olivier Deville (can be found on
>>Arena webpage, User file selection) with x GM games. Now you can say in
>>tournament mode ... play the first x moves by game random!
>>
>>I config 12 moves!
>>Arena played now by random of one of the GM games the first 12 moves and the
>>engines start the game with move 13!
>>
>>I believe that Shredder have a very good opening book but I am not sure! Ruffian
>>2.0.0 have a good opening books too (by Prof. Dr. Djordje Vidanovic, available
>>on the Ruffian 2.0.0 CD-Rom).
>>
>>>But Ruffian 2.0.0 is really a strong engine indeed.
>>
>>Yes and stronger with longer time controls.
>>
>>Best
>>Frank
>
>All programs are stronger with long time control.
>
>The question is if Ruffian2 performs better against the commercial programs at
>long time control.
>
>Uri
>>
>>>Best
>>>Johan

Hi Uri,

this is right and not right :-)

Not right if you set a playing strenght in a ratio to human playing strenght.
Right if you set the playing strenght in a ratio to computer programs. I believe
Shredder is a program which is stronger against other programs with more time.
For Ruffian the same if I look in game phase smooth transition from middlegame
to endgame (the secrets of Ruffian 2.0.0). Maybe Ruffian is in this playing
phase the strongest program in the World and this is the reason for the extrem
high playing level in the final result.

I am not sure, this are my impressions!

Best
Frank



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