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Subject: Re: Question: Itanium Info

Author: Brian Richardson

Date: 14:14:26 12/11/03

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On December 11, 2003 at 15:36:49, Eugene Nalimov wrote:

>On December 11, 2003 at 13:44:59, Brian Richardson wrote:
>
>>On December 10, 2003 at 20:25:43, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>
>>>On December 10, 2003 at 19:24:12, Brian Richardson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 10, 2003 at 18:38:03, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 09, 2003 at 20:22:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 09, 2003 at 16:12:46, Brian Richardson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On December 09, 2003 at 09:52:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On December 08, 2003 at 20:59:26, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>snipped
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ok, that's the itanium doing 32.  Anyone got anything with it doing 64?  Or did
>>>>>>>>>it suck there too?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The original was not very good.  Itanium-2 (Mckinley) is _very_ good.  Close
>>>>>>>>to the opteron even though it is clocked at 1/2 the opteron's speed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Actually, McKinley was also pretty poor, IIRC.  I had emailed Bob some Crafty
>>>>>>>bench command test results.  Now the 3rd generation Madison is much better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Eugene was close to 1M nodes per second at 1ghz.  I don't think I have his
>>>>>>numbers immediately handy but he might supply them again...
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't remember exact numbers, but on 1GHz Itanium2 (McKinley) Crafty got
>>>>>something like 900-1000knps when executing "bench" command. Not great, but
>>>>>reasonable good number.
>>>>>
>>>>>On 1.5GHz Itanium2 (Madison) Crafty is getting 1,357knps.
>>>>>
>>>>>If necessary I can send executable to Bob, so any volunteer can run his/her own
>>>>>tests.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Eugene
>>>>
>>>>The 900Knps was for 2 CPUs; 1 CPU was about 500Knps, according to the log files
>>>>(note for Crafty 18.15, Intel compiler, no assembler, no profiling).
>>>>
>>>>Non-recompiled 32bit binary was _much_ slower, of course.
>>>
>>>Ok, I found 900MHz/1.5Mb cache system nearby. Here are the results:
>>>
>>>D:\Documents and Settings\eugenen>\\eugenen6\crafty\wcrafty.exe
>>>
>>>Initializing multiple threads.
>>>System is SMP, not NUMA.
>>>EPD Kit revision date: 1996.04.21
>>>unable to open book file [./book.bin].
>>>book is disabled
>>>unable to open book file [./books.bin].
>>>
>>>Crafty v19.6 (1 cpus)
>>>
>>>White(1): bench
>>>Running benchmark. . .
>>>......
>>>Total nodes: 100409437
>>>Raw nodes per second: 749324
>>>Total elapsed time: 134
>>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 4.776119
>>>White(1): quit
>>>
>>>I expect 1GHz/3Mb cache system to be ~20% faster -- 10% due to higher frequency,
>>>and 10% due to larger cache (or higher cache associativity -- I reported effect
>>>of 1.5Mb cache vs. 3Mb cache here some time ago). 750knps*1.2 == 900knps, so it
>>>will be roughly the number I gave from memory...
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Eugene
>>
>>And the version 18.15 results (19.6 was not out back in January)?
>
>I don't have old Crafty sources nearby, and cannot connect to UAB site (some
>configuration problems on MS campus). Bob already wrote that there should be no
>difference in nps, and 750knps on 900MHz/1.5Mb system agrees with 900-1000knps
>on 1GHz/3Mb system I gave from memory.
>
>It looks that you used inferior compiler...
>
>Thanks,
>Eugene

You (and Bob) are correct that there is not much of a nps difference
between versions 18.15 and 19.05(06).  I was thinking of other version
differences that were larger.

In any case, might you be running with a "superior compiler" that the rest
of us don't have ready access to :)



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