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Subject: Re: 12th WCCC, Bar-Ilan University: why not to go.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:03:11 12/11/03

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On December 11, 2003 at 06:20:48, Amir Ban wrote:

>On December 10, 2003 at 19:04:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>>handshake, how do operators delay the next round ?
>>
>>I can't ever recall an event where the starting time was announced as 7pm
>>and at 7pm all N games started.  With automatic software this would not
>>happen.  Even more important, start times can be moved up when all games
>>finish early.  But not if we depend on operators as they can go to eat,
>>knowing the next round doesn't start until 7pm.  When it might actually start
>>at 6pm if everyone were ready.  Even more importantly, NO operator time would
>>be needed or lost.  It would be computer vs computer, with no time lost in
>>relaying moves, whatsoever.
>>
>
>Rounds start at the scheduled times, not because the operators go shopping. If
>the TD wants to compress schedules, he just says this to the operators, and it
>happens.

At every event I have attended, less than 1/2 the games started on time.
Operators drag in.  Machines have been powered down.  Etc...

>
>It's not the operators, but the spectators and the press who want it to start on
>scheduled time. Turn on to ICC to view the game of the century on 1100 EST.
>Oops! It's already over.
>
>I have a solution to this: Why not make the *spectators* automatic too :-)
>Scrappy(C) can watch the game for you, and you'll be free to do more classes.

Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.  :)  I already do this.  I have
"hyatt" log on automatically, observe interesting games, plus capture
channel 64 and 211 tells, and log them to a file.  I can replay this later
when I have time to pay attention.  :)




>
>This suggestion mean unmanned, unwatched, un-TD'ed events (i.e. SSDF). Do you
>think I want to fly to Austria, have breakfast at the hotel, come to the
>tournament hall, and find out that the championship ended overnight ?

I wouldn't go that far, no.  But 3 rounds per day, when no humans are needed,
is easily doable.  You can eat when you want, whether a round is going on or
not.

IE we could have these stupid 12 round 16 player events and do it in _four_
days.


>
>It should have been a draw anyway. But just wait to see the length of the thread
>when the championship is decided by two programs misunderstanding each other
>while the TD was out shopping.
>
>Amir

I would hope that doesn't happen.  I haven't had a "hang" on ICC in
_years_ over hundreds of thousands of games...





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