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Subject: Re: 12th WCCC, Bar-Ilan University: why not to go.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:00:10 12/12/03

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On December 12, 2003 at 03:11:43, Omid David Tabibi wrote:

>On December 12, 2003 at 01:53:04, Matthew Hull wrote:
>
>>On December 12, 2003 at 01:40:25, Johan de Koning wrote:
>>
>>>On December 10, 2003 at 10:36:44, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 10, 2003 at 02:46:34, Johan de Koning wrote:
>>>
>>>>>c) lots of wasted time and I loved every minute of it.
>>>>
>>>>Is this the European way or just the ICGA way?
>>>
>>>My point was that the WCCC is an event.
>>>An event by & for humans, not by & for computers.
>>>Barking madness, as you call it, is part of the event.
>>>Technicalities (organizational and electrical) are part of the event.
>>>They can be discussed, but still they are technicalities.
>>>
>>>Humans are pretty smart (even the ones that fail to agree with me :-).
>>>They can easily survive and multiply with only 1 hour "work" per day.
>>>The rest of their lives is about wasting time (aka money) in an
>>>enjoyable manner. Creating a chess program is enjoyable. Pitting it
>>>against others is enjoyable, and even if it isn't, learning why not
>>>is enjoyable. Going to the movies is enjoyable. And finally, joining
>>>the WCCC *can* be enjoyable.
>>>
>>>However, optimizing an event like the WCCC for time is like compressing
>>>LotR for a 22' time slot: an interesting challenge, but a completely
>>>different thing. And while I'm with the analogy, [snipped more blah].
>>>
>>>... Johan
>>
>>
>>I completely grok what you are saying.  However, the happy medium between a
>>leisurely event and an efficient, cost-effective event must be balanced
>>according to the needs of the _World's_ participants with the primary goal of
>>the event in view.  Instead, it seems to us that they are balanced by only
>>considering the needs of Europeans (and relatively near nieghbors) who have
>>loads of liesure time to burn.
>
>There were quite a number of Canadians in the conference during that period. So,
>it seems that the problem is not with the Europeans and their near neighbors,
>but with Americans.

A question.  Did they stay the entire 1.5 weeks, or did they come for a
day or two or three to present something, and then leave?  That's an
important factoid, as it is related to the "time" issue I have raised for
so many years...

>
>There was *unfortunately* very little time to waste in Graz. I emphasize
>"unfortunately", because I enjoyed every minute of the "wasted" time. Dave
>Gomboc from Canada (which for some reason mistook the Austrian autumn for
>Canadian summer!), will also tell you how enjoyable the event was :)
>
>
>>
>>Matt



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