Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 08:11:14 12/12/03
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On December 12, 2003 at 10:19:29, David Dahlem wrote: >On December 12, 2003 at 09:34:59, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 12, 2003 at 01:32:12, Dana Turnmire wrote: >> >>>On December 11, 2003 at 14:26:09, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Nxd5 6. Nxf7 Kxf7 7. Qf3+ Ke6 >>>>8. Nc3 Nb4 >>>> >>>>Now I'll let you dictate the next move. If you want to back up and play a >>>>different white move, feel free. I am at home and don't have my old chess >>>>opening notes handy so this is coming from memory right now. >>>> >>>>White's normal moves are O-O (threat of Re1), Qe4 (threat of f4) and >>>>a3 (driving the knight away from defending d5). Other moves might be >>>>playable, those are the three I remember playing when I used this in >>>>blitz games regularly... >>>> >>>>I think Hans Berliner had some detailed analysis of this opening somewhere >>>>years ago, also showing it was cute for white, but lost if black doesn't >>>>lose his cool with all the pins and potential checks. >>> >>>Fred Reinfeld gives the following line from the 1950's and amazingly Chess >>>Genius 7 gives an evaluation of a pawn down for White -1.03. >>> >>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Nxd5 6. Nxf7 Kxf7 7. Qf3+ Ke6 >>>8. Nc3 Ncb4 9. Qe4 c6 10. d4 Kd7! "and Black is safe." * >> >> >>That was considered the main line (Qe4 vs a3 or something else). "black is >>safe" is relative. Black is sitting on the top of the Empire State Building >>radio mast. He might be "safe" but he definitely has to "watch his step" for >>a while. >> >>I personally believe black wins, with correct play.. > >I searched my Chessbase Big Database 2001 for Fried Liver games, from this line: > >1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Nxd5 6. Nxf7 Kxf7 > >Out of 1.7 million games there were 256 Fried Liver games, with these results: > >White wins = 192 >Black wins = 45 >Draws = 19 > >I observed most of these games ended fairly quickly, with very few long games. >:-) > >Regards >Dave I played it every chance I had. The point being that if black hasn't played it a lot, he had better avoid the two knights in general, and the Nxd5 in particular, although I don't like the alternative Na5 myself. Ken Thompson used to play this line as black and we finall beat him with it. It is tough to get the pawn back.
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