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Subject: Re: Shredder wins in Graz after controversy

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:42:17 12/12/03

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On December 12, 2003 at 12:52:15, Matthew Hull wrote:

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>>>>
>>>>AFAIC you have hit an all-time low, as I said to Matt, be careful people might
>>>>step on you!
>>>
>>>
>>>When you said that to me, I thought you were referring to the moderators.
>>>That's who you were referring to, right?
>>
>>No Matt, I was reffering to you, it was pretty clear.
>
>
>No, I mean the "people might step on matt" meant "moderators might step on
>matt".
>
>If you meant to imply something else, then you are definitely a comedian.
>
>:)
>Matt


He meant "something else".

It was a childish comment, as usual.

When he "grows up" he will realize that sometimes a game is about
winning, other times it is about fun, and other times it is about
things like sportsmanship, training, etc.  But a tournament is
about winning, first and foremost.  To suggest otherwise is so
far beyond ridiculous that it takes sunlight 6 months to get from
ridiculous to there.  Chess players are competitors, first and
foremost, in tournament play.  And if my opponent screws up a won
position and lets me escape with a perpetual, I'll take it.  The
literature is _full_ of such happenings between GM players, and
they never get into this sort of nonsensical "but I was really winning,
and screwed up, and you are a louse for not resigning and giving me the
point.  I only made a _small_ mistake."

I can see GM Walter Browne falling out of his chair laughing.  And he
doesn't laugh much in a chess tournament.  :)

If you said that to him _before_ the game ends, you might have a chance.
He might choke so badly laughing that his flag falls before he can regain
control.  :)

Let's see.  Should Kasparov have been given a point or 1/2 point in the
game he lost so badly against junior, where he had a good position for the
entire game and made a single move that blew the game?  Should the DB team
have given Kasparov credit for blundering in game 6 in 1997 and called the
match a draw?  Should Shirov, or Kramnik, or ... have expected the same
when they lost games they should have won and won games they should have
lost?

Sort of destroys the idea of "competition"...




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