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Subject: Re: Technical question regarding interface for CCT

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 13:53:27 12/12/03

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On December 12, 2003 at 16:44:24, Andrew Williams wrote:

>On December 12, 2003 at 03:30:27, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>
>>The main opening book of Falcon is in Shredder Classic format (BOK), but I can
>>also create a similar book out of my pgn database in Fritz format (CTG). In any
>>case, Falcon relies on the interface to play the opening moves.
>>
>>So, AFAIK there is no way to connect either the Fritz or Shredder Classic
>>interfaces to play on ICC. In that case, and assuming that there is no external
>>program that can read either BOK or CTG formats and play the moves on behalf of
>>WinBoard interface, I don't see how Falcon can play in CCT.
>>
>>It seems that the only interfaces that can connect to ICC are WinBoard and
>>Arena, none of which have their own book formats (can't compile a book out of a
>>pgn database).
>>
>>However, non-winboard engines such as Shredder, Fritz, Junior, and Hiarcs have
>>already participated in CCT in the past.
>>
>>What am I missing?!
>
>Essentially, the rules have evolved over the years. Volker Richey, who has put
>*SIGNIFICANT* effort into CCT has increased the required amount of automation. I
>think the Jonny incident in WCCC 2003 would suggest that that is a good idea. So
>in the past, it has been legal to *manually* play in CCT. This is no longer
>acceptable - essentially, you now have to find a way to play that:
>
>(a) is completely automatic.
>(b) allows your program to kibitz its search information as it plays.
>
>I think the community at large (ie the community of chess programmers) believes
>that this is not an unreasonable set of requirements.

All these requirements come to prevent cheating. But cheating is still very
easily possible. For example, how would you stop the operator from clicking
"move now"?!





>
>Andrew



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