Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 14:11:24 12/12/03
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On December 12, 2003 at 15:01:15, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On December 12, 2003 at 10:00:10, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 12, 2003 at 03:11:43, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>>On December 12, 2003 at 01:53:04, Matthew Hull wrote: >>> >>>>On December 12, 2003 at 01:40:25, Johan de Koning wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 10, 2003 at 10:36:44, Matthew Hull wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On December 10, 2003 at 02:46:34, Johan de Koning wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>c) lots of wasted time and I loved every minute of it. >>>>>> >>>>>>Is this the European way or just the ICGA way? >>>>> >>>>>My point was that the WCCC is an event. >>>>>An event by & for humans, not by & for computers. >>>>>Barking madness, as you call it, is part of the event. >>>>>Technicalities (organizational and electrical) are part of the event. >>>>>They can be discussed, but still they are technicalities. >>>>> >>>>>Humans are pretty smart (even the ones that fail to agree with me :-). >>>>>They can easily survive and multiply with only 1 hour "work" per day. >>>>>The rest of their lives is about wasting time (aka money) in an >>>>>enjoyable manner. Creating a chess program is enjoyable. Pitting it >>>>>against others is enjoyable, and even if it isn't, learning why not >>>>>is enjoyable. Going to the movies is enjoyable. And finally, joining >>>>>the WCCC *can* be enjoyable. >>>>> >>>>>However, optimizing an event like the WCCC for time is like compressing >>>>>LotR for a 22' time slot: an interesting challenge, but a completely >>>>>different thing. And while I'm with the analogy, [snipped more blah]. >>>>> >>>>>... Johan >>>> >>>> >>>>I completely grok what you are saying. However, the happy medium between a >>>>leisurely event and an efficient, cost-effective event must be balanced >>>>according to the needs of the _World's_ participants with the primary goal of >>>>the event in view. Instead, it seems to us that they are balanced by only >>>>considering the needs of Europeans (and relatively near nieghbors) who have >>>>loads of liesure time to burn. >>> >>>There were quite a number of Canadians in the conference during that period. So, >>>it seems that the problem is not with the Europeans and their near neighbors, >>>but with Americans. >> >>A question. Did they stay the entire 1.5 weeks, or did they come for a >>day or two or three to present something, and then leave? That's an >>important factoid, as it is related to the "time" issue I have raised for >>so many years... > >Schaeffer and Marsland were there for the whole 10 days. I have a hard time >imagining that Schaeffer's courses are any less important than yours... > To him, apparently so. I take teaching seriously myself, and don't miss classes unless it is absolutely avoidable... > > > >> >>> >>>There was *unfortunately* very little time to waste in Graz. I emphasize >>>"unfortunately", because I enjoyed every minute of the "wasted" time. Dave >>>Gomboc from Canada (which for some reason mistook the Austrian autumn for >>>Canadian summer!), will also tell you how enjoyable the event was :) >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Matt
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