Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 15:20:56 12/12/03
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On December 12, 2003 at 17:48:26, Dieter Buerssner wrote: >On December 12, 2003 at 17:14:09, Sune Fischer wrote: > >>On December 12, 2003 at 16:53:27, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>But cheating is still very >>>easily possible. For example, how would you stop the operator from clicking >>>"move now"?! >> >>I think you would have to hack winboard to do that, but of course it can be >>done. > >You don't have to hack WB. It is rather easy to still cheat. I could be wrong but IIRC it is greyed out when connected to ICC, and I don't know if Alt-1 will work. In any case it is possible to design around it, e.g. just probe a file for cheat commands every so often. >Actually it might >be the case, that possible cheaters feel much more secure by the new rules. >Don't get me wrong - I have no desire at all to cheat. I don't suspect anybody. >But I think, the "cheating danger" will be much less in a typically manually >operated tournament. I guess cheaters come in several variaties, those that do it because it's easy and those that do it because it is a challenge. I suspect the former group is the largest though, and a real challenge it isn't either, just a little work. >I only attended two such tournament personally (Paderborn >2001 and 2003). It was normal, that any opponent asked before he did input >anything into his program, unless it was just the last move made. At CCT he >could at any time hit "move now". I was sitting in PB 2001 seeing a move failing >low - but there was only one response anyway. Typical "easy move". Instead, the >fail low came at the wrong time, and I waited over 20 minutes (the maximal >emergency time in that position). At CCT it would have been easy, to move right >away. In that specific game, most probably more time later in the game would >have helped my engine to save it to draw. > >When my engine played in CCT-events, I did not operater. I did tell no operator, >how to use "move now" under WB, even when it was possible. I studied all logs, >and all were ok. But the possibility is there. Well I can't say I'm surprised by your honesty :) I've never understood what fun it is to win by cheating, perhaps the fun is in trying to get away with it? -S. >Regards, >Dieter
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