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Subject: Re: Technical question regarding interface for CCT

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 15:57:44 12/12/03

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On December 12, 2003 at 18:41:28, Amir Ban wrote:

>On December 12, 2003 at 09:19:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 12, 2003 at 03:30:27, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>
>>>The main opening book of Falcon is in Shredder Classic format (BOK), but I can
>>>also create a similar book out of my pgn database in Fritz format (CTG). In any
>>>case, Falcon relies on the interface to play the opening moves.
>>>
>>>So, AFAIK there is no way to connect either the Fritz or Shredder Classic
>>>interfaces to play on ICC. In that case, and assuming that there is no external
>>>program that can read either BOK or CTG formats and play the moves on behalf of
>>>WinBoard interface, I don't see how Falcon can play in CCT.
>>>
>>>It seems that the only interfaces that can connect to ICC are WinBoard and
>>>Arena, none of which have their own book formats (can't compile a book out of a
>>>pgn database).
>>>
>>>However, non-winboard engines such as Shredder, Fritz, Junior, and Hiarcs have
>>>already participated in CCT in the past.
>>>
>>>What am I missing?!
>>
>>The fact that you should "roll your own book program".  I suspect it won't be
>>long before using a foreign interface is illegal in all CC competitions.  For
>>one thing, Junior has had an ICC interface for years.  I don't know about the
>>others...
>
>I'll plead not guilty to this. I used to play on ICC manually, and I played one
>or two CCT's that way. The last CCT Junior played we had something automatic
>that Shay organized, but it was based on our class-of-1995 interface and book.
>
>Boris Alterman has been doing the Junior book since 1999, and it exists only in
>Chessbase format.
>
>I would like to play in CCT, and I don't even mind using that nonsense book we
>compiled 8 years ago,


Is that "nonsense book", considerably stronger than a book you can automatically
generate today? If not, create an automated book in ChessPartner interface (what
I am doing at the very moment), and run Junior as a WinBoard or UCI engine
(implementing support for each of them is a matter of a few hours).



>and resurrecting the alphanumeric graphic I tossed in the
>drawer years ago, but I think for the coming CCT even these concessions won't
>do, and I really have to draw a line somewhere how much I go backwards.
>
>CCT rules seem to be geared for ICC-native programs and the features they
>already have anyway, with anything else proclaimed illegal or primitive.
>
>Amir



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