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Subject: Re: Crafty 19.7 is tactically awesome!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:42:36 12/13/03

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On December 13, 2003 at 04:35:54, martin fierz wrote:

>On December 12, 2003 at 20:43:25, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>In solving WAC at 5 seconds per position on a 950 MHz AMD Athlon machine, Crafty
>>solves 294 out of 300.  That is pretty run of the mill as far as top engines go.
>>
>>What is really interesting is how quickly the remaining unsolved 6 problems are
>>solved.  I would be amazed if any engine can match it on like hardware.
>
>i would be *very* amazed if no other engine would beat it on like hardware!
>here's what my pathetic engine (muse 0.876) does on a pathetic computer (P4
>1.4GHz, probably similar to what you were using):
>
>>==============================================================================
>>WAC.230 solved in 17.74 seconds.  Absolutlely stunning!
>>==============================================================================
>=> no chance for muse to solve this.
>
>>PFGA: EPD record: 2   ID: WAC.131
>>               10     6.74     ++   1. Re8!!
>>==============================================================================
>>WAC.131 solved in 6.74 seconds. Almost solved in the 5 seconds alloted...
>>==============================================================================
>
>FEN: 2rq1bk1/p4p1p/1p4p1/3b4/3B1Q2/8/P4PpP/3RR1K1 w - - 0 0
>depth  eval  time      nodes  kN/s  QS  BR  NR 	pv
> 1/4    -238  0.00s        58   74.0 22  50   0 	f2f3 .
> 2/10   -187  0.11s       557    8.4 40  63  68 	f4e5 f7f6 e5f6 .
> 3/10   -187  0.11s       982   13.2 33  67  84 	f4e5 f7f6 e5f6 .
> 4/17    86  0.55s      6068   15.9 31  80  84 	e1e8 c8c1 e8f8 d8f8 d1c1 .
> 5/18   200  1.38s     37437   35.1 23  86  87 	e1e8 c8a8 e8d8 a8d8 f2f3 .
>=> WAC.131 solved in 0.55 seconds, much faster than crafty
>
>
>
>>PFGA: EPD record: 3   ID: WAC.141
>>                9    13.11     ++   1. Qxf4!!
>>==============================================================================
>>WAC.141 solved in 13.11 seconds.  This one causes many engines problems.
>>==============================================================================
>>
>>                9    55.23  Mat06   1. Qxf4 Bxf4 2. Rxh5 gxh5 3. Rxh5 Bh6
>
>unfortunately i don't print out when i fail high in the log file - happens after
>a similar amount of time as crafty.
>
>FEN: 4r1k1/p1qr1p2/2pb1Bp1/1p5p/3P1n1R/1B3P2/PP3PK1/2Q4R w - - 0 0
>depth  eval  time      nodes  kN/s  QS  BR  NR 	pv
> 1/4    -170  0.00s         9   13.0 31   0   0 	g2g1 .
> 2/8    -280  0.00s        90  151.0 40  87   0 	g2f1 e8e2 .
> 3/10   -195  0.05s       640   18.6 33  83  28 	g2f1 g8h7 f1g1 .
> 4/15   -229  0.22s      3818   25.9 33  87  64 	g2f1 f4d5 b3d5 c6d5 .
> 5/18   -217  1.15s     26762   34.7 33  88  77 	g2f1 a7a5 f6e5 d6e5 d4e5 .
> 6/28   31989  49.32s   2325195   56.8 17  89  95 	c1f4 d6f4 h4h5 g6h5 h1h5 f4h6
>h5h6 .
>
>=> mate score found in about the same time as crafty
>
>
>>PFGA: EPD record: 4   ID: WAC.163
>>==============================================================================
>>WAC.163 solved in 5.12 seconds. A hair's breadth from regular 5 second solution
>>==============================================================================
>=> no chance for muse
>
>>PFGA: EPD record: 5   ID: WAC.002
>>               12    12.25  -2.03   1. ... Rxb2 2. Rxb2 c3 3. Rb6+ Kf7
>>==============================================================================
>>WAC.002 solved in 12.25 seconds.  Lots of engines struggle with this one.
>>==============================================================================
>FEN: 8/7p/5k2/5p2/p1p2P2/Pr1pPK2/1P1R3P/8 b - - 0 0
>depth  eval  time      nodes  kN/s  QS  BR  NR 	pv
> 1/2     84  0.05s        19    0.4 14   0   0 	b3b8 .
> 2/6     89  0.05s        80    2.4 35  66  71 	b3b8 e3e4 .
> 3/6     79  0.05s       309    7.4 18  69  69 	b3b8 e3e4 h7h6 .
> 4/10    77  0.11s      1404   16.2 22  88  76 	b3b8 e3e4 f6e6 f3e3 .
> 5/14    72  0.16s      4809   35.4 16  89  79 	b3b8 e3e4 f6e6 e4e5 h7h6 f3e3 .
> 6/14   129  0.27s     11402   48.3 13  92  85 	c4c3 b2c3 b3c3 e3e4 c3a3 e4e5
>f6e6 .
> 7/20    68  1.26s     50011   45.6 13  91  84 	b3b8 e3e4 f6e6 d2g2 e6f6 e4e5
>f6e6 .
> 8/22   292  3.68s    144219   44.6 12  91  87 	b3b2 d2b2 c4c3 b2b6 f6g7 f3f2
>c3c2 b6c6 d3d2 c6c2 d2d1q .
> 9/22   282  5.38s    226837   47.1 11  92  88 	b3b2 d2b2 c4c3 b2b6 f6f7 b6b7
>f7g8 f3f2 c3c2 b7c7 d3d2 c7c2 d2d1q .
>
>=> solved in 3.68 seconds, significantly faster than crafty
>
>
>>PFGA: EPD record: 6   ID: WAC.092
>>                8     6.13     ++   1. ... Bxg4!!
>>==============================================================================
>>WAC.092 solved in 6.13 seconds. Nearly solved in the standard 5 seconds...
>>==============================================================================
>>
>>                8     7.80  -0.59   1. ... Bxg4 2. e5 Bxf3 3. Qxf3 Nh5
>>                                    4. Nd5 Qd8 5. Qg2 e6
>FEN: r4rk1/1p2ppbp/p2pbnp1/q7/3BPPP1/2N2B2/PPP4P/R2Q1RK1 b - - 0 0
>depth  eval  time      nodes  kN/s  QS  BR  NR 	pv
> 1/6     74  0.11s        62    1.1 47  80   0 	e6c4 .
> 2/12    78  0.17s       468    9.3 71  97  66 	e6c4 f1e1 .
> 3/15    61  0.22s      2117   18.3 48  95  60 	e6c4 f3e2 a8c8 .
> 4/17    61  0.44s      7073   27.2 41  96  85 	e6c4 f3e2 a8c8 e2c4 .
> 5/24    54  4.18s    101755   47.2 48  88  77 	e6c4 g4g5 f6h5 d4g7 h5g7 .
> 6/25    60  8.74s    234281   49.5 46  92  84 	e6c4 f1e1 e7e5 d4f2 e5f4 d1d6 .
> 7/26   156  15.49s    475203   50.9 40  91  85 	e6g4 f3g4 f6g4 c3d5 g7d4 d1d4
>f8e8 d4b4 a5b4 d5b4 .
> 8/26   122  22.91s    713057   49.5 37  92  87 	e6g4 f3g4 f6g4 c3d5 g7d4 d1d4
>f8e8 h2h3 g4h6 d5b6 a8d8 .
>
>=> solved in 15.5 seconds, again, the fail high was a bit earlier.
>
>note that 230 and 002 are very much about evaluation of advanced connected
>passers, not really about tactics.
>in games, crafty kills my engine all the time, it scores around 90% or so.
>i'm also impressed by crafty - but not because of what it does in these test
>positions :-)
>
>>I'm certainly impressed.  Time to try some tougher sets and see what happens.
>try ECMGCP and compare it with ruffian?
>
>cheers
>  martin

or even only with knightdreamer

Results copied from knightdreamer homepage
http://www3.tripnet.se/~owemelin/johan/KnightDreamer.html

Testsuit results for KnightDreamer 3.1 on 733MHz PIII(seconds/problem):
WAC:
  0.1 254/300
  1   290/300
  5   297/300
ECM-GCP
  0.1 29/183
  1   76/183
  5   118/183
  20  140/183


Uri



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