Author: José Carlos
Date: 01:56:01 12/13/03
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On December 12, 2003 at 13:52:23, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On December 12, 2003 at 13:26:45, José Carlos wrote: > >>On December 12, 2003 at 12:47:36, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>>On December 12, 2003 at 09:19:56, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On December 12, 2003 at 03:30:27, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>> >>>>>The main opening book of Falcon is in Shredder Classic format (BOK), but I can >>>>>also create a similar book out of my pgn database in Fritz format (CTG). In any >>>>>case, Falcon relies on the interface to play the opening moves. >>>>> >>>>>So, AFAIK there is no way to connect either the Fritz or Shredder Classic >>>>>interfaces to play on ICC. In that case, and assuming that there is no external >>>>>program that can read either BOK or CTG formats and play the moves on behalf of >>>>>WinBoard interface, I don't see how Falcon can play in CCT. >>>>> >>>>>It seems that the only interfaces that can connect to ICC are WinBoard and >>>>>Arena, none of which have their own book formats (can't compile a book out of a >>>>>pgn database). >>>>> >>>>>However, non-winboard engines such as Shredder, Fritz, Junior, and Hiarcs have >>>>>already participated in CCT in the past. >>>>> >>>>>What am I missing?! >>>> >>>>The fact that you should "roll your own book program". I suspect it won't be >>>>long before using a foreign interface is illegal in all CC competitions. >>> >>>Judging by the fact that in Graz most of the programs used either Fritz or >>>Shredder interfaces, I don't see it becoming illegal anytime soon. And I see no >>>reason why it should be made illegal... >> >> I don't know whether it'll become illegal or not, but I find it against common >>sense that some people use (in tournaments) GUI's that make decisions for the >>program, like book moves, draw claims, etc. >> I won't use Anubis in CCT because I don't have time to implement book >>handling. >> I hope sometime soon this is ruled so that either the author writes his own >>interface or the interface makes nothing but comunicate (user-engine, >>engine-chess server, etc...). >> Nevertheless, I won't complain at all if you use Fritz or Shredder or >>whatever. I play just for fun. >> >> José C. > > >I think draw claims are the right task for a GUI. Yes, _your_ GUI, or if you want to use a GUI from someone else, it must do nothing but communicate. That's what I said. José C. >After all the GUI is >responsible for handling the real game board and game history, so it is >perfectly suited to do this, particularly when the GUI's main purpose >is "user interface" and the user definitely has to be notified about >claims for draws, checkmates, flag falls, etc. The engine should not >be responsible for most of that at all.
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