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Subject: Re: REBEL 10.0 vs CHESSMASTER 5500

Author: Micheal Cummings

Date: 05:44:40 11/21/98

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On November 21, 1998 at 08:23:06, blass uri wrote:

>
>On November 21, 1998 at 07:46:16, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>
>>
>>On November 20, 1998 at 17:39:03, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>For anyone interested:
>>>
>>>This is game #10 of my 12 game match.  Chessmaster was kicked out of book on the
>>>2nd move.  I think Rebel was out of book on either move 3 or 4.  Very strange
>>>opening.  Chessmaster called the mate in 6.  The score is now 5-5 with two more
>>>games to go.
>>>
>>>Chessmaster now running on AMD K6-2 @350 MHZ 64 Meg hash.
>>>Rebel 10.0 now running on PII @333 mhz 100 Meg hash.
>>>
>>>[Event "40/90"]
>>>[Site "FL"]
>>>[Date "1998.11.20"]
>>>[Round "10"]
>>>[White "REBEL 10.0"]
>>>[Black "CM5500"]
>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>[WhiteElo "2552"]
>>>[BlackElo "2550"]
>>>[ECO "D00"]
>>>
>>>1. d4 d5 2. Bg5 Nc6 3. Nf3 f6 4. Bf4 g5 5. Bg3 g4 6. Ng1 e5 7. dxe5 fxe5
>>>8. e4 Nf6 9. Bh4 Qd6 10. Bxf6 Qxf6 11. exd5 Bc5 12. Qd2 Nb4 13. Nc3 Bf5
>>>14. Rc1 O-O 15. Na4 Qd6 16. Nxc5 Qxc5 17. c4 Nxa2 18. Rd1 Nb4 19. Rc1 Rae8
>>>20. Rc3 e4 21. h3 e3 22. fxe3 Rxe3+ 23. Rxe3 Nc2+ 24. Ke2 Qxc4+ 25. Rd3
>>>Bxd3+ 26. Qxd3 Qf4 27. Kd1 Ne3+ 28. Kc1 Nxg2+ 29. Kd1 Ne3+ 30. Kc1 Qxf1+
>>>31. Qxf1 Rxf1+ 32. Kd2 Nf5 33. hxg4 Ng3 34. Rh3 Rxg1 35. Ke3 Rg2 36. Kf4
>>>Nf1 37. Rb3 Rf2+ 38. Ke5 b6 39. Rc3 Rf7 40. d6 cxd6+ 41. Kxd6 Kg7 42. Ke5
>>>Nh2 43. Rc4 Kh6 44. Ke6 Rg7 45. Kf5 Rg5+ 46. Ke6 Nxg4 47. Ra4 Rg7 48. Kf5
>>>Kh5 49. Ra1 Rf7+ 50. Ke6 Kg6 51. Ra3 h5 52. Rg3 Rf6+ 53. Kd5 Kg5 54. Ra3
>>>a5 55. Rh3 h4 56. Rh1 Rh6 57. b4 h3 58. bxa5 bxa5 59. Kc4 Kh4 60. Ra1 Rh5
>>>61. Kb3 Nf2 62. Ra4+ Kg3 63. Ra3 h2 64. Kc4+ Kg2 65. Ra1 a4 66. Kb4 Rh4+
>>>67. Ka3 h1=Q 68. Rxh1 Kxh1 69. Kb2 Rc4 70. Ka2 Nd3 71. Ka3 Kg2 72. Ka2
>>>Rc1 73. Ka3 Ra1# 0-1
>>>
>>>Jim Walker
>>
>>I think alot of people underestimate CM5500 and also now CM6000, If these games
>>played against Rebel show how good the CM5500 chess engine is, I can only
>>imagine how strong the new CM6000 program must be.
>>
>>People can come on here and say, yes CM6000 is strong but it could not compete
>>with the likes of Rebel 10 or Fritz, well until there is some thorough testing
>>to show just how strong or weak CM6000 is, I am going to come out and say that
>>it is in the top three of chess program on the market today.
>>
>>I know there are quite a few people sitting there thinking, rubbish, No way. But
>>I CM6000 has, well pretty much flogged all freeware programs at 40/2 time that I
>>have played manually. And I have loaned a friend my copy of CM6000 and he is in
>>the process of playing Fritz, at 40/2 hrs and then going to play a 5 minute
>>series of matches, So far in the 40/2 hrs, CM6000 is leading 3.5-2.5 over Fritz.
>
>what is the hardware in this match?
>>
>>I am trying to get my hands on the games to post, but so far my money is on
>>CM6000, to give a whipping to Number 1 Fritz.
>
>I think that the number 1 of fritz5 is not justified even in the ssdf games.
>Junior5 should be number 1 in the ssdf games because we should delete 4 games of
>Rebel8(p90) against Junior(p200) when Junior lost 2.5:1.5 because Junior was
>slowed down by a big factor.
>
>Pentium200MMX is also optimized for fritz5 and not for Junior5 and Junior can
>earn more speed from the newest pentiums than fritz5.
>
>Uri

Fritz is being played on a P233MMX and CM6000 on a P200MMX Both have 64 Meg of
Ram.



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