Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:29:48 12/13/03
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On December 13, 2003 at 16:27:38, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On December 13, 2003 at 14:54:08, Russell Reagan wrote: > >>On December 13, 2003 at 13:44:20, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>>>What "official title"? European World Computer Chess Champion? CCT-6 >>>>Computer Chess Champion? ACM International Computer Chess Champion? >>> >>>World Computer Chess Champion. >> >>Nah. Call it the ICGA Champion, because that's what it is. >> >>I'd be interested to know what you think gives any organization the right to >>call the winner of their event the world champion. Is the winner of the NFL the >>world champion in American football? What about the winners of the NBA, the NHL, >>MLB? Are the winners of those leagues the world champions? Or are they the NFL >>Champions, etc.? What about the Olympics? What about the FIDE Champion? > >The 'N' in NFL, NBA, NHL stands for 'national'. The 'I' in ICGA stands for >'international'. > > > Nah. It stands for "European" (seems Europeans spell Europe with an I for some reason.) look at the membership base. Primarily European. Certainly not very "International" IMHO. > >> >>IMO, one important aspect is participants of a certain playing ability must be >>able to realistically participate if they desire to do so. The ICGA fails that >>requirement miserably, while leagues like the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB all pass with >>flying colors. They pay people a minimum of a few hundred thousand dollars per >>year to sit on the bench. If you could potentially be one of the best, and you >>have a desire to play in one of those leagues, someone will make sure you are >>participating, and you will be making many millions of dollars each year. I'm >>not sure if the FIDE passes here or not. I have a feeling if someone was as good >>as Kasparov or Kramnik, but didn't have the money required to participate in a >>"world championship" that someone would see that they got to participate, but >>maybe not. >> >>The CCTs pass the particpation requirement easily. The WCCC currently has the >>CCTs beat on the level of the very top participants, but that will change at >>some point. >> >>Personally, I think each organization should call their winner the Champion of >>that organization. IE ICGA Champion, FIDE Champion, CCT Champion, etc. Very few >>(if any) can undisputedly call their winner a world champion. Just call it what >>it is, and let people decide which organizations' champion is the most >>respected.
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