Author: Omid David Tabibi
Date: 04:17:13 12/14/03
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On December 14, 2003 at 00:02:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On December 13, 2003 at 19:15:00, Omid David Tabibi wrote: > >>On December 13, 2003 at 19:02:23, Sune Fischer wrote: >> >>>On December 13, 2003 at 18:29:42, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>> >>>>On December 13, 2003 at 18:12:17, Russell Reagan wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 13, 2003 at 05:31:25, Amir Ban wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Well, if without Chessbase engines you'll have a better event and make progress, >>>>>>I won't stand in your way. >>>>> >>>>>Your statement sounds like the people who tried to hold on to DOS too long when >>>>>Windows (and other multitasking operating systems) were clearly the future. >>>>>"Well, if without real mode you'll have better programs and make progress, I >>>>>won't stand in your way." You don't hear too many of those people these days. Is >>>>>Ed Schröder the only one left? :) Clearly, multiuser and multitasking operating >>>>>systems are progress over DOS. >>>>> >>>>>45 participants is a heck of a lot more than 14. If there are 40 participants >>>>>instead, that's still a heck of a lot more than 14, with plenty of strong >>>>>competition. If we had this kind of participation along with the Chessbase >>>>>engines, that would be great, but I'll take 40+ participants with no Chessbase >>>>>participants over 14 including Chessbase participants. >>>> >>>>What was the average rating in Graz? What is the average rating in CCT? >>> >>>By this logic the tournament would have been even better with only Shredder, >>>Junior and Fritz. >>>The others just dragged down the rating, obviously. >> >>OK, let me put it this way: how many top programs participated in Graz? How many >>will participate in CCT? >> >>Having a chess championship without Junior/Fritz/Shredder is like having a >>football worldcup without Brazil, Italy, Germany, England... (and if like CCT >>you don't have any "drug tests", then Argentina will easily win, thanks to >>Maradona :) >> >> >>> >>>>If quantity is the only important factor for you, then you can take 100 free >>>>winboard engines, run a tournament on your computer, and crown the winner with >>>>the world champion title. >>> >>>Quantity is important, quantity means support, interest and recognition. >>> >>>Where was Tiger, where was Rebel, Ruffian, SmarThink, Crafty, Yace... in your >>>little shootout? >> >>Had they thought they had any chance to win the championship, they would have >>shown up. > >That statement is so far beyond stupid... it really doesn't deserve a >response. Drop over to ICC tonight or tomorrow night, try the quad opteron >Crafty on for size in a game or two. Then come back and make that statement. >It's been hitting 9M+ nodes per second and is _not_ a pushover. Brutus has been hitting 20M+ nodes per second in Graz, so what? >I could >probably have shown up with a 16-way machine at the very least. Do you _really_ >think it would have no chance? :) It is up to you to think about your chances. Had you thought you had real chances, you would have shown up. Again, Brutus had a far better evaluation than Crafty, far better search, and far better nps, and it only ended 4th. On the same hardware, Falcon never scores less than 80% against Crafty, and it only ended 10th. > >I've explained why _I_ didn't go. It had _nothing_ to do with the probability >of winning being too low. _I_ entered ACM and WCCC events when deep thought >was playing, so it obviously didn't stop me back then. > >Stop with the short one-liners that have _zero_ basis in reality. Or come over >to ICC for a _real_ dose of reality... > >> >> >> >>> >>>Could it be they didn't find it worth the trouble, or were they just too busy >>>preparing for CCT6? >>> >>>-S.
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