Author: Omid David Tabibi
Date: 04:22:39 12/14/03
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On December 13, 2003 at 23:29:48, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On December 13, 2003 at 16:27:38, Omid David Tabibi wrote: > >>On December 13, 2003 at 14:54:08, Russell Reagan wrote: >> >>>On December 13, 2003 at 13:44:20, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>> >>>>>What "official title"? European World Computer Chess Champion? CCT-6 >>>>>Computer Chess Champion? ACM International Computer Chess Champion? >>>> >>>>World Computer Chess Champion. >>> >>>Nah. Call it the ICGA Champion, because that's what it is. >>> >>>I'd be interested to know what you think gives any organization the right to >>>call the winner of their event the world champion. Is the winner of the NFL the >>>world champion in American football? What about the winners of the NBA, the NHL, >>>MLB? Are the winners of those leagues the world champions? Or are they the NFL >>>Champions, etc.? What about the Olympics? What about the FIDE Champion? >> >>The 'N' in NFL, NBA, NHL stands for 'national'. The 'I' in ICGA stands for >>'international'. >> >> >> > >Nah. It stands for "European" (seems Europeans spell Europe with an I >for some reason.) look at the membership base. Primarily European. > >Certainly not very "International" IMHO. Just count the number of ICGA members from the University of Alberta in Canada (North America last time I checked). You might change your mind. > >> >>> >>>IMO, one important aspect is participants of a certain playing ability must be >>>able to realistically participate if they desire to do so. The ICGA fails that >>>requirement miserably, while leagues like the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB all pass with >>>flying colors. They pay people a minimum of a few hundred thousand dollars per >>>year to sit on the bench. If you could potentially be one of the best, and you >>>have a desire to play in one of those leagues, someone will make sure you are >>>participating, and you will be making many millions of dollars each year. I'm >>>not sure if the FIDE passes here or not. I have a feeling if someone was as good >>>as Kasparov or Kramnik, but didn't have the money required to participate in a >>>"world championship" that someone would see that they got to participate, but >>>maybe not. >>> >>>The CCTs pass the particpation requirement easily. The WCCC currently has the >>>CCTs beat on the level of the very top participants, but that will change at >>>some point. >>> >>>Personally, I think each organization should call their winner the Champion of >>>that organization. IE ICGA Champion, FIDE Champion, CCT Champion, etc. Very few >>>(if any) can undisputedly call their winner a world champion. Just call it what >>>it is, and let people decide which organizations' champion is the most >>>respected.
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