Author: Uri Blass
Date: 05:52:57 12/14/03
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On December 14, 2003 at 07:17:13, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On December 14, 2003 at 00:02:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 13, 2003 at 19:15:00, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>>On December 13, 2003 at 19:02:23, Sune Fischer wrote: >>> >>>>On December 13, 2003 at 18:29:42, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 13, 2003 at 18:12:17, Russell Reagan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On December 13, 2003 at 05:31:25, Amir Ban wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Well, if without Chessbase engines you'll have a better event and make progress, >>>>>>>I won't stand in your way. >>>>>> >>>>>>Your statement sounds like the people who tried to hold on to DOS too long when >>>>>>Windows (and other multitasking operating systems) were clearly the future. >>>>>>"Well, if without real mode you'll have better programs and make progress, I >>>>>>won't stand in your way." You don't hear too many of those people these days. Is >>>>>>Ed Schröder the only one left? :) Clearly, multiuser and multitasking operating >>>>>>systems are progress over DOS. >>>>>> >>>>>>45 participants is a heck of a lot more than 14. If there are 40 participants >>>>>>instead, that's still a heck of a lot more than 14, with plenty of strong >>>>>>competition. If we had this kind of participation along with the Chessbase >>>>>>engines, that would be great, but I'll take 40+ participants with no Chessbase >>>>>>participants over 14 including Chessbase participants. >>>>> >>>>>What was the average rating in Graz? What is the average rating in CCT? >>>> >>>>By this logic the tournament would have been even better with only Shredder, >>>>Junior and Fritz. >>>>The others just dragged down the rating, obviously. >>> >>>OK, let me put it this way: how many top programs participated in Graz? How many >>>will participate in CCT? >>> >>>Having a chess championship without Junior/Fritz/Shredder is like having a >>>football worldcup without Brazil, Italy, Germany, England... (and if like CCT >>>you don't have any "drug tests", then Argentina will easily win, thanks to >>>Maradona :) >>> >>> >>>> >>>>>If quantity is the only important factor for you, then you can take 100 free >>>>>winboard engines, run a tournament on your computer, and crown the winner with >>>>>the world champion title. >>>> >>>>Quantity is important, quantity means support, interest and recognition. >>>> >>>>Where was Tiger, where was Rebel, Ruffian, SmarThink, Crafty, Yace... in your >>>>little shootout? >>> >>>Had they thought they had any chance to win the championship, they would have >>>shown up. >> >>That statement is so far beyond stupid... it really doesn't deserve a >>response. Drop over to ICC tonight or tomorrow night, try the quad opteron >>Crafty on for size in a game or two. Then come back and make that statement. >>It's been hitting 9M+ nodes per second and is _not_ a pushover. > >Brutus has been hitting 20M+ nodes per second in Graz, so what? > > >>I could >>probably have shown up with a 16-way machine at the very least. Do you _really_ >>think it would have no chance? :) > >It is up to you to think about your chances. Had you thought you had real >chances, you would have shown up. > >Again, Brutus had a far better evaluation than Crafty, far better search, and >far better nps, and it only ended 4th. How do you know that brutus had better evaluation and better search than crafty? > >On the same hardware, Falcon never scores less than 80% against Crafty, and it >only ended 10th. Did you test against 19.06 and not 19.03?(results that I read suggest that 19.06 is an improvement) Did you test with own books and not with Fritz8.ctg? Uri
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