Author: Uri Blass
Date: 15:33:47 12/14/03
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On December 14, 2003 at 17:29:56, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On December 14, 2003 at 17:18:09, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On December 14, 2003 at 16:44:59, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >> >>>On December 13, 2003 at 19:15:00, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>> >>>>On December 13, 2003 at 19:02:23, Sune Fischer wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 13, 2003 at 18:29:42, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On December 13, 2003 at 18:12:17, Russell Reagan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On December 13, 2003 at 05:31:25, Amir Ban wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Well, if without Chessbase engines you'll have a better event and make progress, >>>>>>>>I won't stand in your way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Your statement sounds like the people who tried to hold on to DOS too long when >>>>>>>Windows (and other multitasking operating systems) were clearly the future. >>>>>>>"Well, if without real mode you'll have better programs and make progress, I >>>>>>>won't stand in your way." You don't hear too many of those people these days. Is >>>>>>>Ed Schröder the only one left? :) Clearly, multiuser and multitasking operating >>>>>>>systems are progress over DOS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>45 participants is a heck of a lot more than 14. If there are 40 participants >>>>>>>instead, that's still a heck of a lot more than 14, with plenty of strong >>>>>>>competition. If we had this kind of participation along with the Chessbase >>>>>>>engines, that would be great, but I'll take 40+ participants with no Chessbase >>>>>>>participants over 14 including Chessbase participants. >>>>>> >>>>>>What was the average rating in Graz? What is the average rating in CCT? >>>>> >>>>>By this logic the tournament would have been even better with only Shredder, >>>>>Junior and Fritz. >>>>>The others just dragged down the rating, obviously. >>>> >>>>OK, let me put it this way: how many top programs participated in Graz? How many >>>>will participate in CCT? >>>> >>>>Having a chess championship without Junior/Fritz/Shredder is like having a >>>>football worldcup without Brazil, Italy, Germany, England... (and if like CCT >>>>you don't have any "drug tests", then Argentina will easily win, thanks to >>>>Maradona :) >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>If quantity is the only important factor for you, then you can take 100 free >>>>>>winboard engines, run a tournament on your computer, and crown the winner with >>>>>>the world champion title. >>>>> >>>>>Quantity is important, quantity means support, interest and recognition. >>>>> >>>>>Where was Tiger, where was Rebel, Ruffian, SmarThink, Crafty, Yace... in your >>>>>little shootout? >>>> >>>>Had they thought they had any chance to win the championship, they would have >>>>shown up. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Could it be they didn't find it worth the trouble, or were they just too busy >>>>>preparing for CCT6? >>>>> >>>>>-S. >>> >>> >>>Crafty is _open source_. If Bob has a good idea, we all immediately copy it. >>>That makes it sorta hard to win championships :) >>> >>>anthony >> >>How many programmers understand crafty in order to copy every good idea in it? >> >>You can talk only about yourself and not about "we all". >> >>I believe that most programmers do not understand a lot of crafty(otherwise most >>free programs could be better than Crafty). > >Crafty is very well documented (I'm not sure whether the comments are more than >the actual code or not!), so it is a very good place to learn about various >ideas. But understanding the Crafty code is a special field of study in itself. >You have to first format your brain to thinking bitboard :) I thought first about understanding parts that are not related to the move generator like hash.c or iterate.c I believe that the organization in Crafty is clearly better than my movei and make changes in the search more easy to implement. I need to rewrite my alphabeta and I need to have a special file for iterate(today the relevant function is in the same file as my alphabeta function and it also check if the move is a book move and only if it is not a book move and not a single legal move it starts to search). Uri
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