Author: Omid David Tabibi
Date: 10:51:19 12/15/03
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On December 15, 2003 at 10:12:13, Thomas Mayer wrote: >Hi Omid, > >I don't really get your point in this discussion. I think you can not claim Bob >that he would only participate when he thinks that he can win - Let's review again what I said: "If you think you have a chance to win, you will participate". "chance to win" -> "participation". This statement doesn't say *anything* at all about the state of "no chance to win". For some reason Bob thinks that "chance to win" -> "participation" is equivalent to "no chance to win" -> "no participation" which is terribly wrong. Most participants in Graz came knowing that they didn't have any reasonable chances to win. Even I knew perfectly well that running on the slowest hardware there, my winning chances are very slim. Well, none of these contradict my claim. > several times he >has shown up at WCCCs with very minimal chances... Again, this doesn't contradict what I said. >Besides, I definitely believe that he has some chances with some big hardware. > >Bob shows us his reasons why he did not participate and why he does not want to >participate in the upcoming WCCC at Israel. I do not agree with his reasons, but >anyway I respect them somehow. > >I think only for the professionals exists the problem to have some chances to >win or not -> to end like e.g. Deep Sjeng did (And I know it can do definitely >better) is not very good for the sales. For us amateurs this is different, I >believe. The olympic idea that participating is everything is still very high in >my opinion - at least it was the reason for me to participate. Bad luck is always there. In Graz, Falcon and Sjeng competed on who gets the worst luck! I was extremely unhappy with Falcon's results, as I'm sure GCP is with Sjeng's result, but as result both GCP and I will work harder on our programs to improve them. I suggest than in summer 2004 you conduct a test between the latest versions of Sjeng and another commercial engine which doesn't show up to tournaments. I bet Sjeng will be *far* stronger, because by participating in tournaments it always becomes stronger, just like human players. >Already before >the start it was clear to me that my combination of book, engine and hardware >has very low chances to win there (There is ALWAYS a chance, but say it was >1:1.000.000 - which is better then in a lottery... :) - I was quite aware about >the fact that I would fight for not being last. Anyway, how often would I get >the chance to participate at a world championship ? For me that was a dream >since 1986 (reading everything about WCCC 1986 - winner: Cray Blitz) - and I >think that when you have the chance to get a dream reality you should take that >chance... I completely agree with you, and again, I don't see how it contradicts what I said. > >Greets, Thomas > >P.S.: I will definitely try to get to Israel next year, but for now this is >unsure because of business issues and still because of my girlfriend which has >some problems with the security at the tournament site... Anyway I will try to >convince her. Look forward to seeing you here! As far as security goes, on May there will be a large number of Europeans in the Tel-Aviv area, coming for the final-four of EuroLeague, finals of European Basketball Association.
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