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Subject: Re: rook endgame test position

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 13:52:55 12/15/03

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On December 15, 2003 at 16:23:15, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>[D] 5k2/1R4p1/5p2/4p2p/1p2P2P/r4P2/PK4P1/8 b - -
>
>This is from a game between Ruffian-Yace in the "CSS-Online-Masters" (time
>control 60 15).
>
>I think, after Ra4, white cannot make progress, and the game will end in draw.
>Yace played Re3? instead (with 0.0 score). Are there engines, that show in
>reasonable time a big score difference between Re3 and Ra4?. I believe Re3 loses
>by force. For example Re3 Rxb4 Re2 Kb3 Rxg2?! (possibly Re3 instead gives more
>resistance) a4.
>
>It is not a real good test position, because engines can show for a long time
>the same score for Ra4 and Re3, and the chosen move might be pure luck.
>Therefore also the question for scores after those moves.

Ruffian 1.01 takes 5 minutes on a 950 MHz AMD Athlon:

E:\programme\winboard\ruffian>ruffian -h 300M -T \dtest.epd -t 999 -p 9
Hash size 314572800
Ruffian 1.0.1
feature done=0
Loading configuration: ruffian.cfg
Warning: EGTB_HASH_SIZE changed, default=1048576, newvalue=8388608
Logfile: Mon Dec 15 13:42:00 2003
Total hash size 300M
Initializing tablebases: e:/programme/winboard/nalimov
Testing \dtest.epd, 999 seconds, extra ply 9
Testing: test 1   Solution: Ra4
  5k2/1R4p1/5p2/4p2p/1p2P2P/r4P2/PK4P1/8 b - -
  Depth   Time  Score    Best line
  10/20   1.13  -0.21    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rh2 Rb8+ Ke7 a5 Rxh4
                         a6
  10-->   1.22  -0.21    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rh2 Rb8+ Ke7 a5 Rxh4
                         a6
  11/22   2.20  -0.03    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 g5 hxg5 fxg5 Kc4 Rf2
                         Rb8+ Ke7 Rb7+ Ke6
  11-->   2.35  -0.03    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 g5 hxg5 fxg5 Kc4 Rf2
                         Rb8+ Ke7 Rb7+ Ke6
  12/23   3.22  -0.15    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rg3 a5 Rxf3+ Ka4 f5
                         a6 Rf2 exf5 Rxf5
  12-->   3.62  -0.15    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rg3 a5 Rxf3+ Ka4 f5
                         a6 Rf2 exf5 Rxf5
  13/24   5.39  -0.13    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rg3 a5 Rxf3+ Ka4 g5
                         a6 Rf2 Rb8+ Kf7 Rb7+ Ke6
  13-->   6.23  -0.13    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rg3 a5 Rxf3+ Ka4 g5
                         a6 Rf2 Rb8+ Kf7 Rb7+ Ke6
  14/28  13.24   0.00    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rg3 a5 Rxf3+ Kb2 Rf2+
                         Kb3 g5 a6 Rf3+
  14-->  14.33   0.00    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rg3 a5 Rxf3+ Kb2 Rf2+
                         Kb3 g5 a6 Rf3+
  15/29  23.74  -0.23    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rg3 a5 Rxf3+ Ka4 Rf2
                         a6 Ra2+ Kb5 Ke7 Ra4 Rb2+ Kc5 Ke6
  15-->  30.70  -0.23    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rg3 a5 Rxf3+ Ka4 Rf2
                         a6 Ra2+ Kb5 Ke7 Ra4 Rb2+ Kc5 Ke6
  16/31  47.09  -0.23    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rg3 a5 Rxf3+ Ka4 Rf2
                         a6 Ra2+ Kb5 g5 Ra4 Rb2+ Ka5 Rb8 Rb4
  16-->  55.30  -0.23    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rg3 a5 Rxf3+ Ka4 Rf2
                         a6 Ra2+ Kb5 g5 Ra4 Rb2+ Ka5 Rb8 Rb4
  17/33   1:43   0.00    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rg3 a5 Rxf3+ Ka4 Rf2
                         a6 Ra2+ Kb5 g5 Ra4 Rb2+ Rb4 Ra2
  17-->   1:56   0.00    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rg3 a5 Rxf3+ Ka4 Rf2
                         a6 Ra2+ Kb5 g5 Ra4 Rb2+ Rb4 Ra2
  18/33   3:36     --    ... Re3
  18/34   4:20  -0.35    ... Re3 Rxb4 Re2+ Kb3 Rxg2 a4 Rg3 a5 Rxf3+ Ka4 Rf2
                         a6 Ra2+ Kb5 Ke7 Ra4 Rb2+ Kc6 Rc2+ Kd5 Rd2+ Kc5 Rc2+
                         Rc4 Rd2
  18/34   4:58   x.xx    ... Ra4
  18/34   5:56  -0.13    ... Ra4 Rc7 Ra3 Rc4 Ra4 Rc8+ Kf7 Rc7+ Kf8 Kb1 Kg8
                         Rc8+ Kh7 Kb2 g6 Rc2 Ra3 Rc7+ Kh6 Rc4 Ra4 Kb3
  18-->   7:21  -0.13    ... Ra4 Rc7 Ra3 Rc4 Ra4 Rc8+ Kf7 Rc7+ Kf8 Kb1 Kg8
                         Rc8+ Kh7 Kb2 g6 Rc2 Ra3 Rc7+ Kh6 Rc4 Ra4 Kb3
  19/38   9:46  -0.13    ... Ra4 Rc7 Ra3 Rc4 Ra4 Rc8+ Kf7 Rc7+ Kf8 Kb1 Kg8
                         Rc8+ Kh7 Kb2 g6 g4 hxg4 fxg4 b3 Kxb3 Rxe4 Rc7+ Kh6
                         Rc4 Re3+
  19...   9:46   2/17    Re3



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