Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 09:15:36 12/16/03
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On December 15, 2003 at 14:35:52, Sune Fischer wrote: >On December 15, 2003 at 13:51:19, Omid David Tabibi wrote: > >>On December 15, 2003 at 10:12:13, Thomas Mayer wrote: >> >>>Hi Omid, >>> >>>I don't really get your point in this discussion. I think you can not claim Bob >>>that he would only participate when he thinks that he can win - >> >>Let's review again what I said: >> >>"If you think you have a chance to win, you will participate". >> >>"chance to win" -> "participation". >> >>This statement doesn't say *anything* at all about the state of "no chance to >>win". For some reason Bob thinks that >> >>"chance to win" -> "participation" >> >>is equivalent to >> >>"no chance to win" -> "no participation" >> >>which is terribly wrong. > >Yes that looks wrong, but your first statement is equivalent to: > >"reason for no participation" -> "no chance to win" > >which I believe is incorrect since Crafty, Ruffian and others would have had >chances had they decided to compete. > >I've added 'reason for' just to make it clear. Trivially, in the strict sense >there is no way you can win if you don't participate, so I assume that's not >what you meant. The statement is clearly wrong, on two counts. I once thought I had no chance of winning and yet I did compete. This year I knew I definitely had chances to win and I didn't compete. So the statement is false for one of those two cases. Yet they _both_ are true. Hence, the chances to win is unrelated to participation or not. That has been my point all along. His comment was just a one-liner put-down in trying to escape from an argument. It was an invalid premise from the beginning. > >>I suggest than in summer 2004 you conduct a test between the latest versions of >>Sjeng and another commercial engine which doesn't show up to tournaments. I bet >>Sjeng will be *far* stronger, because by participating in tournaments it always >>becomes stronger, just like human players. > >I thought so too, until Ruffian showed up out of nowhere :) > >-S.
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