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Subject: Re: Technical question regarding interface for CCT

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:15:36 12/16/03

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On December 15, 2003 at 14:35:52, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On December 15, 2003 at 13:51:19, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>
>>On December 15, 2003 at 10:12:13, Thomas Mayer wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Omid,
>>>
>>>I don't really get your point in this discussion. I think you can not claim Bob
>>>that he would only participate when he thinks that he can win -
>>
>>Let's review again what I said:
>>
>>"If you think you have a chance to win, you will participate".
>>
>>"chance to win" -> "participation".
>>
>>This statement doesn't say *anything* at all about the state of "no chance to
>>win". For some reason Bob thinks that
>>
>>"chance to win" -> "participation"
>>
>>is equivalent to
>>
>>"no chance to win" -> "no participation"
>>
>>which is terribly wrong.
>
>Yes that looks wrong, but your first statement is equivalent to:
>
>"reason for no participation" -> "no chance to win"
>
>which I believe is incorrect since Crafty, Ruffian and others would have had
>chances had they decided to compete.
>
>I've added 'reason for' just to make it clear. Trivially, in the strict sense
>there is no way you can win if you don't participate, so I assume that's not
>what you meant.

The statement is clearly wrong, on two counts.

I once thought I had no chance of winning and yet I did compete.  This
year I knew I definitely had chances to win and I didn't compete.  So the
statement is false for one of those two cases.  Yet they _both_ are true.
Hence, the chances to win is unrelated to participation or not.

That has been my point all along.

His comment was just a one-liner put-down in trying to escape from an
argument.

It was an invalid premise from the beginning.

>
>>I suggest than in summer 2004 you conduct a test between the latest versions of
>>Sjeng and another commercial engine which doesn't show up to tournaments. I bet
>>Sjeng will be *far* stronger, because by participating in tournaments it always
>>becomes stronger, just like human players.
>
>I thought so too, until Ruffian showed up out of nowhere :)
>
>-S.



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