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Subject: Re: 100:1 NPS Challenge

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 10:09:57 12/17/03

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On December 17, 2003 at 10:41:24, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 17, 2003 at 10:23:26, Matthew Hull wrote:
>
>>On December 17, 2003 at 10:21:58, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>On December 17, 2003 at 09:35:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 17, 2003 at 09:05:55, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I guess I will be running the 100:1 NPS challenge.  Here's the info:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I will use any books.bin & bookc.bin that Bob asks me to.  The book.bin will be
>>>>>created from enormous.pgn.
>>>>
>>>>My suggestion is to use book.bin, bookc.bin and books.bin from my ftp
>>>>machine.  book.bin has no learning data so it will start off in the best
>>>>possible way.
>>>>
>>>>remove position.bin before game 1.
>>>>
>>>>And, as I suggested previously, if, after a program leaves book, it is
>>>>in an obviously won or lost position, the game gets aborted and the next
>>>>one started.  There is no place for "book kills" when the goal is a time
>>>>handicap match.
>>>
>>>Agreed.  The only loss Crafty has suffered in the Rebel match was a book loss.
>>
>>
>>BTW, what were the results of that match?
>
>3.5-1.5 for crafty
>
>see http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?336433
>
>Note that the match is not very interesting for me because it is an open
>question if Crafty is better than rebel on equal hardware and in WBEC Crafty has
>13/24 when Rebel has only 10/24

There is no doubt in my mind Rebel is better than Crafty on equal hardware.  And
I've played, oh, about 5,000 games with Rebel.

How much better is questionable, but it's obviously not 8x.  ;)

>The more interesting question is if Rebel is able to get better result than
>Crafty in the premier division.
>
>Uri



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