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Subject: Re: 100:1 NPS Challenge

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 11:47:03 12/17/03

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On December 17, 2003 at 13:20:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 17, 2003 at 13:09:57, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On December 17, 2003 at 10:41:24, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On December 17, 2003 at 10:23:26, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 17, 2003 at 10:21:58, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 17, 2003 at 09:35:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 17, 2003 at 09:05:55, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I guess I will be running the 100:1 NPS challenge.  Here's the info:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I will use any books.bin & bookc.bin that Bob asks me to.  The book.bin will be
>>>>>>>created from enormous.pgn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My suggestion is to use book.bin, bookc.bin and books.bin from my ftp
>>>>>>machine.  book.bin has no learning data so it will start off in the best
>>>>>>possible way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>remove position.bin before game 1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And, as I suggested previously, if, after a program leaves book, it is
>>>>>>in an obviously won or lost position, the game gets aborted and the next
>>>>>>one started.  There is no place for "book kills" when the goal is a time
>>>>>>handicap match.
>>>>>
>>>>>Agreed.  The only loss Crafty has suffered in the Rebel match was a book loss.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>BTW, what were the results of that match?
>>>
>>>3.5-1.5 for crafty
>>>
>>>see http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?336433
>>>
>>>Note that the match is not very interesting for me because it is an open
>>>question if Crafty is better than rebel on equal hardware and in WBEC Crafty has
>>>13/24 when Rebel has only 10/24
>>
>>There is no doubt in my mind Rebel is better than Crafty on equal hardware.  And
>>I've played, oh, about 5,000 games with Rebel.
>
>I would take that wager.  We _both_ use quad opterons.
>
>:)
>
>Isn't that "equal" by any reasonable definition?  :)

Even better. 8-way Itanium2 -- and you know, it still can run x86 programs :-)

Thanks,
Eugene

>>
>>How much better is questionable, but it's obviously not 8x.  ;)
>>
>>>The more interesting question is if Rebel is able to get better result than
>>>Crafty in the premier division.
>>>
>>>Uri



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