Author: Uri Blass
Date: 01:35:33 12/18/03
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On December 18, 2003 at 04:12:07, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >On December 18, 2003 at 03:38:39, Peter Skinner wrote: > >>On December 18, 2003 at 03:21:26, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >> >>>03. Ruffian 2.0 by Per-Ola Valdfridsson (Sweden) is the strongest Winboard >>>compatible engine n the World today! >>> >>>Right / Wrong >>> >> >>You did advertise it as the "strongest" Winboard program in the World today. >>Today can last forever, as each time I look at the time, I see "today". This is >>where I see the problem that GCP has. Do we have _conclusive_ proof that Ruffian >>2.0 is the strongest? How can you say this statement when you don't know for >>sure. >> >>There is such a thing as false advertising, and all it would take is another >>Winboard engine to beat Ruffian 2.0 in a match to prove this claim is false and >>I would be able to sue your company. >> >>I remember years ago a company here in town said it had "The best hamburger in >>Edmonton". Some locals businesses took them to task on the statement, proved it >>wrong by a panel of 40 testers, and won a court battle biased on false >>advertising. >> >>Before one makes such statements, I would be sure they are correct. >> >>Peter. > >Hi Peter, > >I believe the most what you wrote is right! > >But you must see the combination of my text (point 1, point 2 and point 3). At >the moment you see only point 3 ... point 1 and point 2 standing on the first >positions. I have never said that Ruffian is the number one in the World because >I know that the ChessBase engines Shredder, Fritz, Junior, Hiarcs and Chess >Tiger are very strong. I am sure that Ruffian can hold this playing level but I >am not sure that Ruffian can beat all on different time controls. I know that >TheKing and Sjeng are very strong too but I don't see this engines in a rating >list in front of Ruffian 2.0.0, sorry! > >I don't saw that an other available WinBoard engine is stronger as Ruffian 2.0.0 >and I as producer of this CD-Rom I can give this information without any >problems because I have no other information. If I have other results (and I >public my results on my own webpages) you have right and cann't say Ruffian is >the strongest WinBoard engines in the World. > >Furhtermore, Ruffian played two official tournaments and won both. Ruffian won >all the tournament which are played in the last half year (available on Arena >webpages). All persons know that Ruffian is now one year the strongest free >available WinBoard and UCI engine, isn't it? > >Maybe my text is not 100% right (I am sure that my text is to 100% right) and >only this important for me! > >I will never say if I see that Sjeng 2.0 is out and Gian-Carlo have written that >Sjeng 2.0 is the strongest available engine ... its wrong or not right. In this >case I would like to buy Sjeng 2.0 and would like to play different tourneys to >see it. If so, Sjeng 2.0 is the strongest engine and in this case I cann't write >Ruffian 2.0 is the strongest available WinBoard engine. > >In combination with the word "bullshit" in an official computer chess forum is >the way which Gian-Carlo go not right, meaning without to see my product or to >hold it in there own hand. I am very disappointed about it because I don't like >it to use such words. > >All in one: > >Frank: > >01. Maybe I have to write an other text for this handbook (meaning point 3). > >Gian Carlo: > >01. Have no possibilities for a court to say such things before he hold the CD >in the own hand. > >02. I am sure that no judge in the World like the word "Bullshit" !! > >03. To say it 4 weeks after I public the handbook on the same day as the >productiion is ready is not the right way! > >With other words: >If a person write me a mail about this text in the last 4 weeks I am absolutly >sure that I changed the text. I am sure with my words but I have no interest to >get problems with other companys or persons. > >For me is the text "strongest available WinBoard engines" absolutly right. > >Best >Frank I think that there is going to be no misunderstanding but it is better to say better than X,Y,Z and not the strongest available winboard engine. Ruffian2 seems to be better than Deep Sjeng1.5,Rebel12 and Theking3.23 based on Leo's tournament. The reason that it is not a good idea to say strongest available winboard engine even if you give the date of yesterday is that in theory it is possible that some stronger winboard engine is available in Japan and I never heard of it because the programmer never made advertisment for it that is not in Japanish Uri
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