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Subject: Re: Did I miss VD & GCP reports on Graz WCCC ?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:30:44 12/18/03

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On December 18, 2003 at 08:15:52, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On December 18, 2003 at 07:50:13, Sune Fischer wrote:
>
>>Yeah, and now you're starting the whole thing up again.
>
>I blame Rolf :)
>
>>Would Shredder have asked to play on?  Absolutely not, no way!
>
>Shredder did not ask to play on either in this case. But of course,
>happily accepted when it was offered to do so.
>
>>Would the TD have said Shredder couldn't claim the draw because the interface
>>did it?  Of course not, this is the way Shredder is designed!
>>
>>So what remains is the naked fact:
>>one guy wants to give the win to his opponent, should the TD allow that?
>>
>>>The fact that the Jonny engine did not know about 3 fold repetitions, and
>>>the draw was claimed by the interface, is IMHO sufficient reason to play on.
>>
>>If Jonny can play in that interface then Jonny can use everything the interface
>>offers: the egtbs, an opening book and draw claims.
>>
>>In any case one shouldn't suddenly go about making up rules in the middle of >the tournament: "Oh BTW you can't claim a draw because you are using an
>>interface that does it for you...."
>>This should have been said _before_ the tournament.
>
>The rules are actually made up during the players meeting (I dislike _THAT_
>certainly a lot).
>
>You are also saying something completely different than I am. I am saying
>that I consider the reasoning defensible. I did not say that every engine
>HAS to claim the draw by itself, even when the interface was designed to do
>that.
>
>Can you understand the difference?
>
>Jonny is a winboard engine btw :)

I guess that shredder ran as a UCI engine.

It is clear that in these circumstances it also claimed the draw so the only
logical decision is a draw even if you accept that the interface is only part of
shredder and not part of jonny.

Uri



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