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Subject: Re: Ruffian discuss ...

Author: Bernhard Bauer

Date: 23:23:19 12/18/03

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On December 18, 2003 at 15:02:31, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>On December 18, 2003 at 14:09:31, Jonas Bylund wrote:
>
>>On December 18, 2003 at 12:56:00, Richard Sutherland wrote:
>>
>>>On December 18, 2003 at 06:10:23, Jonas Bylund wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well Frank was only excersising his rights to free speech, the way i see it you
>>>>are the one trying to limit freedom of speech here, you used the word "request"
>>>>yourself...
>>>>
>>>>I know Frank as an honest intelligent person who loves computer chess enough to
>>>>have trough many years given us many great (free) services, this is not someone
>>>>i would personally ask to "go away" as you so elequently put it.
>>>>
>>>>I can understand that he does not want to continue a discussion that seems to
>>>>lead nowhere, especially when it could potentially be bad for business (for the
>>>>wrong reasons if you ask me).
>>>>
>>>>Like i have said before:
>>>>Thank you Frank for your great contributions to computer chess!
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Jonas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Get real Jonas. Anytime someone domes on a board and says "Stop criticizing my
>>>product, even if it is a rip-off, because it will cost me money"
>>
>>If you going to quote someone you should actually quote them and not post your
>>own fables, talk about getting real!
>>
>>they should
>>>expect to be hammered. (Take note: I'm not saying that this product is a
>>>rip-off, just that that is the way it came out).
>>
>>Wow that must be the least thought through statement in CCC history.
>>
>>>Personally, I think Ruffian is overpriced for a product that has not established
>>>itself yet but that is his prerogative to charge whatever he wants. Unlike some
>>>here, who buy every chess program, regardless of cost, I have to be a little
>>>more selective and Frank's post has put me right off this program.
>>
>>What you think personally is your opinion and you have the right to say what is
>>on you mind, just like Frank has. I am not saying that i would do the same, but
>>i have no problem with him saying what he did, that is the point i am making
>>here.
>>
>>Regards
>>Jonas
>
>Hi Jonas,
>
>thanks for your helps!!
>
>With this posting I will say only that the complete team have no interest to
>make money with negative publicity. I am sure we don't know negative publicity
>for our product. Nice to see that you understand my posting. I have never say
>"please closed this thread". It's not my forum and I am guest here.
>

You wrote:

-->In this case it's better we closed the discuss here because I like it to for
-->sell 100 CDs with positiv publicity compare to for sell 1 CD with negative
-->publicity.

You may write your opinion here just like any other person. But closing
discussion is not up to you so please refrain from even suggesting this.

>The opinions from a group of persons are very interesting for me. I cann`t know
>what I read in different messages but this discuss are normaly for bigger chess
>fora. Unfortunately, the most negative opinions comes allways from the same
>group of persons. Not important is what I do, important is that Frank do it.
>

I simply don't get it. May be you should explain it in German.

>But I am very happy / proud about my first project. It looks nice good and all
>persons which help me made a great work.
>
>Per-Ola and Martin are great programmers and the chess computer world have a new
>event.
>
>Best
>Frank

Arena is a good piece of software and ruffian_1 too. We will see how good
ruffian_2 really is after it is shipped. My best wishes for arena and ruffian.
regards

Bernhard



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