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Subject: Re: Rebel -Customize Settings (28.4 Seconds) (default = 5 secs)

Author: Chessfun

Date: 01:49:04 12/20/03

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On December 18, 2003 at 03:29:25, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On December 17, 2003 at 23:51:19, Rex wrote:
>
>>On December 17, 2003 at 23:18:21, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>I should have tested this position with the new "Tal" personality -> 1:34
>>>awesome!
>>>
>>>Tal,M - Gurgenidze,B
>>>[d]r3rbk1/2q2p1p/2p1p1p1/pp1nP1B1/6Q1/P2B2P1/1PP2PK1/R6R w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Crafty 19.07 SE (tal):
>>>
>>>21.Qh3 h5 22.Bf6 Nxf6 23.exf6 Red8
>>>  =  (-0.18)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
>>>21.Qh4 h6 22.c3 Rac8 23.Bxh6 Bxh6 24.Qxh6 Qxe5
>>>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
>>>21.Qh4 h6 22.c3 Rac8 23.Bxh6 Bxh6 24.Qxh6 Qxe5
>>>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
>>>21.Qh4 h5 22.Bf6 Nxf6 23.exf6 Rad8 24.Rad1 Bc5
>>>  =  (-0.07)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  170kN
>>>21.Qh4 h5 22.Bf6 Nxf6 23.exf6 Rad8 24.Rad1 Bc5
>>>  =  (-0.07)   Depth: 6   00:00:01  222kN
>>>21.Qh4 h5 22.Bf6 Nxf6 23.exf6 Rad8 24.Rad1 Bc5
>>>  =  (-0.07)   Depth: 7   00:00:01  262kN
>>>21.Qh4 h5 22.Bf6 Nxf6 23.exf6 Rad8 24.Rad1 Bc5
>>>  =  (-0.07)   Depth: 7   00:00:01  441kN
>>>21.Qh4 h5 22.Bf6 Nxf6 23.exf6 Rad8 24.Rad1 Qe5 25.c3 Bc5
>>>  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 8   00:00:01  796kN
>>>21.Qh4 h5 22.Bf6 Nxf6 23.exf6 Rad8 24.Rad1 Qe5 25.c3 Bc5
>>>  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  1528kN
>>>21.Qh4 h5 22.Bf6 Nxf6 23.exf6 Red8 24.Rae1 Rd5 25.Be4 Rd2 26.Rd1
>>>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 9   00:00:03  2564kN
>>>21.Qh4 h5 22.Bf6 Nxf6 23.exf6 Red8 24.Rae1 Rd5 25.Be4 Rd2 26.Rd1
>>>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 9   00:00:04  3844kN
>>>21.Qh4 h5 22.g4 Qxe5 23.gxh5 f6 24.Bc1 g5 25.Qg4 Bh6 26.Bg6
>>>  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 10   00:00:09  8462kN
>>>21.Qh4 h5 22.g4 Qxe5 23.gxh5 f6 24.Bc1 g5 25.Qg4 Bh6 26.Bg6
>>>  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 10   00:00:12  12335kN
>>>21.Qh4 h5 22.g4 Qxe5 23.gxh5 f6 24.Bd2 g5 25.Qg4 Qxb2 26.Bg6 Re7
>>>  =  (-0.02)   Depth: 11   00:00:18  17524kN
>>>21.Qh4 h5 22.g4 Qxe5 23.gxh5 f6 24.Bd2 g5 25.Qg4 Qxb2 26.Bg6 Re7
>>>  =  (-0.02)   Depth: 11   00:00:30  30581kN
>>>21.Qh4 h5 22.g4 Qxe5 23.gxh5 Be7 24.Bxe7 Rxe7 25.hxg6 fxg6 26.Be4 Nf4+ 27.Kf3 g5
>>>28.Rag1
>>>  =  (0.13)   Depth: 12   00:00:42  43213kN
>>>21.Rxh7
>>>  ²  (0.38)   Depth: 12   00:01:34  97552kN
>>>21.Rxh7 Bg7 22.Bf6 Bxf6 23.exf6 Nxf6 24.Qxg6+ fxg6 25.Rxc7 Rac8 26.Rxc8 Rxc8
>>>27.Bxg6 Kg7 28.Bd3
>>>  +-  (1.76)   Depth: 12   00:03:40  239319kN
>>>21.Rxh7 Bg7 22.Bf6 Bxf6 23.exf6 Nxf6 24.Qxg6+ fxg6 25.Rxc7 Rac8 26.Rxc8 Rxc8
>>>27.Bxg6 Kg7 28.Bd3
>>>  +-  (1.76)   Depth: 12   00:03:40  239319kN
>>>21.Rxh7 Bg7 22.Bf6 Bxf6 23.exf6 Nxf6 24.Qxg6+ fxg6 25.Rxc7 Rac8 26.Rxc8 Rxc8
>>>27.a4 b4 28.Bxg6 Rd8
>>>  +-  (1.77)   Depth: 13   00:04:34  289733kN
>>>21.Rxh7 Bg7 22.Bf6 Bxf6 23.exf6 Nxf6 24.Qxg6+ fxg6 25.Rxc7 Rac8 26.Rxc8 Rxc8
>>>27.a4 b4 28.Bxg6 Rd8
>>>  +-  (1.77)   Depth: 13   00:04:45  300678kN
>>>
>>>(Byrne, Secane, PA USA 17.12.2003)
>
>>AMD MP 2600+
>>
>>00:00:28.4	-0.38	11	28484758	Rxh7
>>00:00:42.5	1.38	11	42945215	Rxh7 Bg7 Bf6
>>00:00:46.8	1.38	12	47724365	Rxh7 Bg7 Bf6
>>00:00:59.2	1.14	13	62756640	Rxh7 Bg7 Bf6
>>00:01:38.0	1.28	14	108537486	Rxh7 Bg7 Bf6
>
>The default engine takes 5 secs (XP-2000).
>
> 00:00:00   7.00  -0.31  1.Qe4 Be7 2.Bh6 f5 3.exf6 Bxf6 4.c3
> 00:00:01   8.00  -0.36  1.Qe4 Be7 2.Bh6 f5 3.exf6 Bxf6 4.c3 Rad8 5.Rad1
> 00:00:01   8.01  -0.34  1.Rae1 h5 2.Qe2 Bg7 3.Rh4 Qa7 4.Rd1
> 00:00:03   9.00  -0.42  1.Rae1 h5 2.Qe2 Bg7 3.Rh4 Nb6 4.b3 Nd7 5.f4
> 00:00:03   9.01  -0.39  1.Qe4 Be7 2.Bh6 Bc5 3.Rad1 f5 4.exf6 Nxf6
> 00:00:05   9.20  -0.39  1.Rxh7
> 00:00:06   9.20  0.52  1.Rxh7 Kxh7 2.Qh4 Kg8 3.Rh1 Bh6 4.Qxh6 Qxe5
>                        5.Qh7 Kf8 6.Bxg6 Qg7 7.Bh6
> 00:00:13  10.00  1.04  1.Rxh7 Bg7 2.Bf6 Nxf6 3.exf6
> 00:00:21  11.00  1.27  1.Rxh7 Bg7 2.Bf6 Bxf6 3.exf6
> 00:00:37  12.00  1.37  1.Rxh7 Bg7 2.Bf6 Bxf6 3.exf6
> 00:01:10  13.00  1.37  1.Rxh7 Bg7 2.Bf6 Bxf6 3.exf6
>
>My best,
>
>Ed

Hi Ed,
     I hope you are well and getting ready for the Christmas season.

Seems with the latest patch from CB suddenly I can run Wb2Uci !!

Anyway my question is this. I copied my folder Rebel12 to Chessbase\engines so
clearly my files are right...well maybe the same is better. Then when I try this
position I get a much faster time in ChessPartner. Any ideas why?.

I do notice though that by the time each gets to depth 13 they are almost the
same, it seems to be just the first seconds.

Also although my param.txt file states
Personality Path        personal/REBEL.ENG  (0)
Personality description Rebel 12 (November 2003)

Initial Hash Table Size  60 Mb
Current Hash Table Size  60 Mb

My actual Fritz display screen says 1 Mb even with the engine loaded at 60 mb?.

XP 2600+

New game
r3rbk1/2q2p1p/2p1p1p1/pp1nP1B1/6Q1/P2B2P1/1PP2PK1/R6R w - - 0 1

Analysis by Rebel 12.00.01:

1.Bxg6 fxg6
  -+  (-2.88)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
1.Bf6
  ±  (0.73)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
1.Bf6 Nxf6 2.exf6
  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
1.Bf6 Nxf6 2.exf6 Bc5
  ³  (-0.54)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1.Qe4
  ³  (-0.54)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1.Qe4 Bg7 2.Rae1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1.Qe4 Bg7 2.Rae1 Qa7
  ³  (-0.26)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
1.Qe4 Bg7 2.Rae1 f6 3.exf6 Bxf6
  ³  (-0.46)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
1.Rae1 h5 2.Qd4 c5 3.Qe4
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
1.Qd4 Bg7 2.Rae1 h5 3.c4 bxc4
  =  (-0.21)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
1.Qd4 Bg7 2.f4 c5 3.Qe4 Reb8
  ³  (-0.35)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  119kN
1.Rae1 h5 2.Qe4 Qa7 3.Rd1 Bg7
  ³  (-0.30)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  147kN
1.Qe4 Be7 2.Bxe7 Rxe7 3.Rad1 f5 4.Qd4
  ³  (-0.29)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  173kN
1.Qe4 Be7 2.Bh6 f5 3.exf6 Bxf6 4.c3
  ³  (-0.30)   Depth: 7   00:00:02  353kN
1.Qe4 Be7 2.Bh6 f5 3.exf6 Bxf6 4.c3 Rad8 5.Rad1
  ³  (-0.35)   Depth: 8   00:00:05  836kN
1.Rae1 h5 2.Qe2 Bg7 3.Rh4 Qa7 4.Rd1
  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 8   00:00:05  1002kN
1.Rae1 h5 2.Qe2 Bg7 3.Rh4 Nb6 4.b3 Nd7 5.f4
  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 9   00:00:07  2220kN
1.Qe4 Be7 2.Bh6 Bc5 3.Rad1 f5 4.exf6 Nxf6
  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 9   00:00:07  2453kN
1.Rxh7
  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 9   00:00:07  3781kN
1.Rxh7 Kxh7 2.Qh4+ Kg8 3.Rh1 Bh6 4.Qxh6 Qxe5 5.Qh7+ Kf8 6.Bxg6 Qg7 7.Bh6
  ²  (0.51)   Depth: 9   00:00:08  4615kN
1.Rxh7 Bg7 2.Bf6 Nxf6 3.exf6
  ±  (1.04)   Depth: 10   00:00:10  9747kN
1.Rxh7 Bg7 2.Bf6 Bxf6
  ±  (1.27)   Depth: 11   00:00:16  16379kN
1.Rxh7 Bg7 2.Bf6 Bxf6
  ±  (1.36)   Depth: 12   00:00:29  30653kN
1.Rxh7 Bg7 2.Bf6 Bxf6
  ±  (1.36)   Depth: 13   00:00:54  60429kN

(Bird, Barrie 20.12.2003)

Rebel 12.00.01

00:00:00.1	-2.88	1	31	Bxg6 fxg6
00:00:00.1	0.73	1	48	Bf6
00:00:00.1	-0.25	2	232	Bf6 Nxf6 exf6
00:00:00.1	-0.54	3	1394	Bf6 Nxf6 exf6 Bc5
00:00:00.1	-0.54	3	2152	Qe4
00:00:00.1	0.00	3	2461	Qe4 Bg7 Rae1
00:00:00.1	-0.26	4	5440	Qe4 Bg7 Rae1 Qa7
00:00:00.2	-0.46	5	29987	Qe4 Bg7 Rae1 f6 exf6 Bxf6
00:00:00.2	-0.24	5	44333	Rae1 h5 Qd4 c5 Qe4
00:00:00.2	-0.21	5	54402	Qd4 Bg7 Rae1 h5 c4 bxc4
00:00:00.2	-0.35	6	119151	Qd4 Bg7 f4 c5 Qe4 Reb8
00:00:00.3	-0.30	6	147118	Rae1 h5 Qe4 Qa7 Rd1 Bg7
00:00:00.3	-0.29	6	173084	Qe4 Be7 Bxe7 Rxe7 Rad1 f5 Qd4
00:00:00.5	-0.30	7	353730	Qe4 Be7 Bh6 f5 exf6ep Bxf6 c3
00:00:01.0	-0.35	8	836772	Qe4 Be7 Bh6 f5 exf6ep Bxf6 c3 Rad8 Rad1
00:00:01.1	-0.34	8	1002788	Rae1 h5 Qe2 Bg7 Rh4 Qa7 Rd1
00:00:02.4	-0.42	9	2220566	Rae1 h5 Qe2 Bg7 Rh4 Nb6 b3 Nd7 f4
00:00:02.6	-0.38	9	2453056	Qe4 Be7 Bh6 Bc5 Rad1 f5 exf6ep Nxf6
00:00:03.9	-0.38	9	3781458	Rxh7
00:00:04.7	0.51	9	4615895	Rxh7 Kxh7 Qh4+ Kg8 Rh1 Bh6 Qxh6 Qxe5 Qh7+ Kf8 Bxg6 Qg7
Bh6
00:00:09.7	1.04	10	9747978	Rxh7 Bg7 Bf6 Nxf6 exf6
00:00:15.6	1.27	11	16379504	Rxh7 Bg7 Bf6 Bxf6
00:00:28.6	1.36	12	30653826	Rxh7 Bg7 Bf6 Bxf6
00:00:53.6	1.36	13	60429819	Rxh7 Bg7 Bf6 Bxf6

Thanks,

Sarah.



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