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Subject: Re: More dodgy advertising! Oh, the horror! Banana Award...

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 05:01:26 12/20/03

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On December 20, 2003 at 04:08:46, George Sobala wrote:

>I am astonished at the diatribe that has been launched against Frank Quisinky
>for his promotion of Ruffian 2. For the picky amongst you, what about the
>following, all taken from advertising on their respective websites:
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>Shredder 7: "For computer experts Shredder is the number one choice."
>
>A verifiable statement? Which computer experts were asked, and what question?


Just to start with this one. Although I'm not a native English speaker I can
give the following verdict:

Verifiable you say. But that's not the point! It's 'claiming' to be the best and
then verify it. You must not confuse a nonsense statement with a juridically
_unallowed_ claim. What you do here is twisting and forgetting about the plain
content of the meantioned unallowed (and false!) PR.


>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>Hiarcs8: "And indeed the distinguishing feature is that the author, like no
>other, uses a maximum of chess knowledge to increase the playing strength of his
>program."
>
>Really? They can categorically state, without having seen other programmers'
>source code, that Hiarcs8 uses the maximum chess knowledge?

Yes, I must laugh, you must read the text. He does it like no other. If he did
not it would probably be a cheat. Logic seems more difficult than English.




>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>Rebel12: "Rebel is one of the strongest and most complete chess programs in the
>world and absolute champion providing the maximum information on your screen."
>
>Probably a poor translation into English, but what does this mean?

It is crystal clear.


>
>(a) "Rebel is one of the strongest and most complete chess programs in the world
>and absolute champion. It also provides the maximum information on your screen."
>
>Gosh. I have to buy the absolute champion chess program!


Nope. The meaning is that Rebel is the absolute champion in providing etc....
Please re-read the text. BTW not that I would believe that it's true, Fritz is
able to provide you much more information, in special the sub-variations! Rebel
can't do that and that was a main reason why exterts didn't train with Rebel.


>
>or
>
>(b) "Rebel is one of the strongest and most complete chess programs in the
>world. It is the absolute champion in providing the maximum information on your
>screen."
>
>What information-providing world championship did it win?


Seemingly you confuse tournament champions and metaphorical champions. Yes, your
English is classy but your logic sucks.


>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>So you see, much advertising needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. I advise
>you all to calm down, lay off Frank and enjoy the chess.

Yes, I see, that you can't differentiate clearly false claims that are unallowed
by the law and pompous statements that are exaggerated and at least problematic.
But that is allowed. Not, that it's true. But with you contribution people can
now better understand what "Frank" finds difficult to understand. With advisors
like you he can well make an end to all hopes into his business right now. Or he
says to himself that he must learn a few things as fast as he can...

Rolf


>
>Incidentally, doubtlessly swayed by the above puff, I own two of the above three
>programs and am eagerly awaiting Ruffian-2.



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