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Subject: Re: Shredder wins in Graz after controversy -- rebuttal

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 05:45:57 12/21/03

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On December 21, 2003 at 03:52:44, Darse Billings wrote:

>One of the fundamental flaws in reasoning is the premise that the
>WCCC is a competition strictly between programs, and that the human
>operator plays no role whatsoever.  That is demonstrably false, and
>it is trivially easy to see that it is false.  A slow operator can
>affect the outcome of a game.  What if an operator refuses to enter
>a move, or refuses to execute a move and hit the clock?  There is
>no rule that forces him or her to do so within a fixed time period.

To be honest, I only read this far.  You really need to learn to be a bit more
concise; no one wants to waste their time reading a 100 page post, half of which
is poorly worded insinuations against the intelligence of the members of CCC.  I
suspect this is as far as you will read in my post, but I'm going to finish
anyway :)

In my opinion, the role of the human operator is what needs to change.  There is
simply no reason to have them any more.  If I were to set things up, I would
have everyone connect there computers to a LAN, set up a mini ICC, and play all
the matches completely autonomously.  If the programmer wants to resign when the
score is -10, he can build in code to that.  If he wants it to claim draws, he
can build in code to that.  If he wants it to resign a drawn position vs
Shredder, he can do that.  But once the match starts, it's hands off.  If it
crashes or hangs, too bad for him.

I completely agree with GCP that the best part of computer-computer events is
chatting with the authors, and that is precisely why I think we need fully
automated tourneys.  How can you relax and talk when you are constantly having
to move the pieces around?

anthony



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