Author: Uri Blass
Date: 06:48:12 12/21/03
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On December 21, 2003 at 09:36:27, José Carlos wrote: >On December 21, 2003 at 08:33:22, Duncan Roberts wrote: > >>up to how many moves from the start of the game do we know DEFINITELY, there is >>no material win for white. >> >> >>I once saw that a program called bringer or something like that had checked the >>first 15 moves or so. >> >>does anybody have more information? >> >> >>Duncan roberts > > It was SOS, IIRC. It tried a material only eval from starting position and saw >that 1.h3 (I'm not sure about the move) does not lose material for white in >about 30 plies. > For more details search the CCC archives. > > José C. How do you define material? Does 1.f3 e5 2.g4 Qh4# lose material for white. If you only count material the answer is negative and if you consider the fact that capturing the king is not allowed in chess then white never has less material in that line. Uri
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