Author: Bob Durrett
Date: 08:37:04 12/21/03
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On December 20, 2003 at 22:21:22, margolies,marc wrote: > >I think this poster committed an ergo propter hoc fallacy. >Why should it be surprising that Kasparov's analysis comports with Shredder's >analysis? We should actually be surprised if the opposite were true-- I do not >think Gaza Kimovitch would even allow this as he prolly used shredder and his >brothers when composing his modern assessment of old games. >In my opinion, a fine job is how the author is showing the reader more chess >sense than a computer program would. Offering the comportment of an identity is >not enough. > >On December 20, 2003 at 21:24:36, Mark Young wrote: > >>After finding a PGN file of all games in GM Kasparov book My Great Predecessors. >>I wanted to see how well of a job Chessbase and Shredder 7.04 would do in >>analysing the same games as GM Kasparov. After about 2 weeks of crunching the >>computer finnish all games. I must say I was very pleased with the results. >> >>Shredder pointed out not only tactical mistakes but positional mistakes that >>agreed very much with what GM Kasparov gave in his analysis. Even finding some >>shots that GM Kasparov missed. >> >>Hats off to chessbase, I never used this feature for my own games as I thought >>it was more of a gimmick the then a help, but after seeing the results I will. The "problem" with modern chess-playing programs is that they cannot understand the needs and interests of the human users. They also seem unable to comprehend the way humans think. This is not entirely true, of course, since the programmers of the *commercial* chess programs were [I presume] human and they surely must have tried to anticipate and accommodate the needs of the human users to increase market share. Kasparov provides an invaluable service to other humans interested in chess. He takes the products of his own analyses [probably assisted by chess software including Shredder] and uses that information to produce information useful and appealing to humans. We will always need a Kasparov to serve as a HUI. [HUI = Human User Interface] Bob D.
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