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Subject: Re: Shredder wins in Graz after controversy -- rebuttal

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 12:08:36 12/21/03

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On December 21, 2003 at 14:59:39, George Sobala wrote:

>On December 21, 2003 at 14:41:03, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On December 21, 2003 at 14:22:07, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>On December 21, 2003 at 14:14:46, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 21, 2003 at 14:04:46, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 21, 2003 at 13:17:48, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 21, 2003 at 10:18:36, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On December 21, 2003 at 03:52:44, Darse Billings wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have read the hundreds of replies in this thread.  I don't read
>>>>>>>>this forum regularly, and I do not wish to spark more pointless
>>>>>>>>discussion (though it is likely inevitable).  Nevertheless, many
>>>>>>>>things have been said that are simply wrong, so I will try once
>>>>>>>>more to clarify some of the points of contention.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>We heard your point of view and your point of view is in the minority and is
>>>>>>>direct contradiction to "fair play" as most people know it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Then none of you have any idea whatsoever what fair play is. This comes as no
>>>>>>surprise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><big snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have no intention of debating the issue further.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bravo!  We already went through this once, we will now have a another hundred
>>>>>>>line thread on this issue .  I think most people have already moved on and I'm
>>>>>>>glad to see you are moving on as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No, he read a hundred rants from rash posters at CCC and is now responding, with
>>>>>>intelligence, which is sorely lacking at CCC!
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry Terry - there was no reason for his post other than vent.  IMO, hi missed
>>>>>the boat on this issue and apparantly many others agree.  That's ok - nobody
>>>>>gets it right all the time.  He should have quit while he was ahead.
>>>>
>>>>Who says he isn't ahead...(not that he's out trying to win converts), he simply
>>>>"laid the cards on the table" and you've proven him right, as the CCC, with
>>>>their snobbish replies.
>>>>
>>>>At least I took time to _read_ his _entire_ post. ANY insults he dished out were
>>>>well desevered!
>>>
>>>I read his entire post and I simply do agree with his reasoning.  You happen to
>>>agree with him, that is your right.  I could care less about his insults - he is
>>>obviously emotionally attached to his line of thinking and I think that is
>>>clouding his judgement here.
>>
>>
>>do agree?;-)
>>
>>Regardless, that is the point, and everyone has been guilty in varying degrees,
>>over the Graz issue, and _not_ just Darse Billings.
>>
>>If you're very honest about it you'll see he indeed has a very logical
>>arguement, but no one wants to listen. He's not infallible, but niether are the
>>members of CCC. Not me, not you, none of us.
>>
>>Best,
>> Terry
>
>I agree Terry. There is an awful lot of entrenched opinion on both sides
>expressing itself as insults. My view is that (a) at Graz the TD made the
>correct decision within the rules as they existed, and (b) the rules should be
>changed for the next tournament. I doubt that many disagree with (b) but a lot
>seem to wish to change history.

Exactly! Thanks for your perspective.

Terry



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