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Subject: Re: The King's News Clothes (Re: DB vs)

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 15:47:20 11/23/98

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On November 23, 1998 at 17:14:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 23, 1998 at 11:50:01, Amir Ban wrote:
>

>I'm going to try to keep this simple.  Here is a point-blank question:  if you
>really believe that nonsensical statement you wrote above, then how can you
>reconcile that with a program that is searching at least 1,000 times faster
>than you, yet only gets to depth 10-11 in the game?  If they are not extending
>far more than you could ever hope to then exactly *what* are they doing with
>that factor of 1,000?  And remember that they have a pretty simple quiescence
>search and they toss out bummer captures as well, so the work is *not* in
>looking at zillions of captures.

Seems like you misunderstand another side of this, because you are mistaking me
for a null-mover.

To get to nominal ply 11, I would have to search at least to my (half-ply) depth
21. If you've ever seen Junior play, you know that that's a lot for a middlegame
position. I'm guessing it will take Junior at least a few days to get there.

When I do get to that depth, though, I expect to see much more than Deep Blue
sees at its ply 11, because I'm much more heavily extended, and of that, I'm
sure.

Amir




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