Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 17:42:30 12/21/03
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On December 21, 2003 at 19:42:14, Thomas Mayer wrote: >Hi Rolf, > >seems that things get better - No please, don't say that. I stand for the evil and unsolved things. Please no premature solutions. In the end we become ... and that would be intolerable for me. I prefer good debates. And therefore I can't need harmony. >at least you managed it somehow to put a smile on >my face... thats a good start... :) How could that happen? I feel unconfortable if you smile. I like it when you are angry. Please be so kind and let's make a little war. Otherwise I can't sleep tonight. The more confused opponents the better I can sleep. :) > >>> But I may add that one of the rule is that if something is not declared in >>> the rules FIDE rules will be taken... Thats the point how the TD explains >>> his decision... > >> But the passivity "rule" means what? Did Zwanzger violate that rule? With the >> bad intention to avoid that rule and hence he cheated. It's so simple. > >a) Zwanzger was not fully aware of that rule That's the fault of Mr. Meyer-Kahlen! He had plenty of time to teach the young guy about CC rules and other details. >b) in trying to make everything correct he made a mistake. You understand me, a >MISTAKE ! Objection! [Oh, my is getting better now! Finally back to war.] As a chessplayer he knew that he should take the draw. So, no mistake but a cheat. >He had never any bad intention to avoid the rule. Funny is, that you >relate here bad intention with cheating. So what should I think now about your >opinion about cheating ? :) I am the twin of Uri, that is what you should think. Uri also combined bad intentions and cheating. > >>> Of course I do not agree with it - I think that the correct result should >>> be a draw... anyway there is no point where we can claim Johannes as a >>> cheater - he made an understandable mistake - and I am quite sure that Bob >>> understands this also. And I agree with Bob that the TD decision about that >>> game was not correct. > >> So here we agree completely, thanks. But now my nerving question: why did you >> not oppose the decision? Why did you tolerate that Amir did the same??? Why >> did you tolerate that ChessBase-Fritz refused to appeal? > >I DID ask the TD at the players meeting about this topic some questions - and he >did present me his opinion. Afaik also Amir and Vincent had some questions. The >decision was made by a Jury of 3 persons... Finally we all accept it with some >headache... that was maybe wrong - but speaking for myself I must say that it >was simply my first WCCC... and on first sigth the hole decision seems to me >sound - but not correct, somewhat paradox... But I cant help you here because then we would be friends in the end if you could understand your dilemma. I prefer to have war. But I see a problem. You are so young and not a real opponent for me. I make only war to the most experienced people. So bad in your case because you would be a good occasion to create a 10000 messages thread until Christmas. With all the neccessary hatred and drama. >Well, and about Amir and the Fritz-team ? Should I force them to complain ???? YESSSS! >They must know themself what they do - and I am very sure that they know it, I >have great respect for both. You mean you respect their commercial experience? > >>> Correct decision of TD should have been: Declare the game as draw and inform >>> Johannes that his decision was not correct. Period. > >> No, you can't say that, we will become friends in the end, no, please refuse >> to say that, please. :) > >Okay, instead of saying it again I quote it again... Can we stop now this >friend-nonsense ? :) Yes, let's better be cruel and misbehave. Stinkefinger!! > >>> Rolf, when you are in any elite like you declare yourself in CTF then you >>> belong to the elite in getting on somebodys nerves... That is the only >>> thing you are good at ! > >> I doubt it but perhaps I can help you in your understanding what I meant >> because I can see that you completely misunderstood what I meant. > >I believe that I understood you quite well... :) > >> There are many elites in a country. > >Of course I agree - and you belong definitely to the elite in getting on >somebodys nerves... :) I haven't seen anything yet where you are nearly as good >as in that. Do you know "Badesalz" ? You may search the title "Hessi James" on >their album "DiWoDaSo" - it is also on their best of album. The role of this >Hessi James would perfectly fit on you... :) > >> Certainly academics belong to some elites. > >I believe that many academics think that - but very few of them deserve it... To >get any academic grade is nothing respectable, everybody can get it if he tries >hard enough or spents enough money. So an academic grade is neither sufficent >nor condition to belong to any elite. Actually it does. But you are correct when you don't believe in such automatisms. Try to find some education and you would probably be a member too. :) >Do you think your doctor did belong to an elite ? If yes, then okay, then we >have a different opinion about elites. What doctor? It's not about opinions but definitions regarding elites. I mean duties not extra rights and impostering moves. Here in our case for example I have the duty to recognize that we are getting off-topic since we agree in the basic question and that is the end of the debate. Rolf P.S. Please look out for another little war between us. Christmas is so boring. :) > >> Look, I don't continue this if you refuse to discuss the main point. In >> manipulating with deliberate snips you already got all the Gold Medals >> available. > >:) Nonsens - it might be different for you, but I started with computer based >communication when 0.3k was the usual speed of everybody - there it was usual >only to quote the parts you want to comment - simply to safe bandwith. Nowadays >it seems to be common behaviour to quote hundres of line and comment with a >single one... when you think that is fine, okay - we disagree here... >And I can't get the Gold Medal here - to much honour for me - let's honour the >one who deserves it, greates manipulator in the world: You... So I'm fine with >the silver medal... :) > >Greets, Thomas
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