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Subject: Re: 100 Game Match - Crafty 19.7 SE vs Ruffian 1.5

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 02:15:27 12/22/03

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On December 22, 2003 at 00:37:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 20, 2003 at 17:51:53, Christian Koch wrote:
>
>>On December 20, 2003 at 16:17:16, Thomas Mayer wrote:
>>
>>Hi Thomas,
>>
>>it's the same thing with Ruffian 2.0.0. Installed as WB-engine the file
>>Ruffian.bok will learn (updated). Not as an UCI engine.
>
>Now explain to me _again_ why so many like the UCI protocol and think the
>winboard protocol is outdated?  :)

Hi Bob,

believe me, only outdated in the brains from different commercial companys and
freaks of commercial software. For me is this totaly OK because the success of
WinBoard is higher :-)

In German we say:
"Ein nettes Eigentor"

In English ... maybe:
"a nice own goal"

Furthermore, I believe we can make more publicity for amateur chess engines if
different wb engines are compatible to UCI too. Users of commercial programs try
it under commercial GUIs and with time more and more users try it under  strong
WB compatible GUIs, like WinBoard and Arena. Reason enough for me to powered UCI
too. Furthermore, commercial software are very important for the market and we
must try to support this software.

It is the following way:
We give and get nothing (in the brains of the most persons).
The reality is ... you know the reality.

The most users have interest on engine full power and only the typical normlay
user of chess engines on 3D options and so on. This group of users are thinking
... WOW a strong new freeware engine. I must try it under my favorite commercial
GUI. A second, third ... program is the result for the harddisk from this
people. The result in 3-4 years is much higher ... now are 20 or more engines on
the user harddisk and we have more and more free engines!

What do you think about it if we go the same way and create for stronger
Winboard engines a not free new protocol?

OK, OK only a joke :-))
The commercial users of chess software which used such protocols make us in this
case the biggest problems :-)

The way you go with your comments about this topic are right.
The way I go is maybe wrong ... I don't know but my math is good Bob.
Thinking on your comment for five years "Frank, you math is bad".

Best
Frank



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