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Subject: Re: The King's News Clothes (Re: DB vs)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:05:51 11/23/98

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On November 23, 1998 at 18:04:03, Amir Ban wrote:

>On November 23, 1998 at 17:01:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>
>>
>>I let this run for a while here on a single P6...  I just finished 19 and my
>>score for Qb6 is down to +.97, on the other machine, axb5 is still holding on
>>at +.6, but that is one ply behind the machine with Qb6 and has stopped because
>>of a power failure kicking that machine in the  head.
>>
>
>Huh ? If you play 36. axb5 axb5 you get the position for move 37, and I remember
>that you posted here a week ago that you ran this on Crafty to get draw values
>for this move, so where does this +.6 come from ?
>
>Amir




I searched from the following position (after axb5 + black's move), ie the point
where Qb6 or Be4 can be played...  and I searched to either depth=21 or
depth=22, which translates to 23 or 24 from axb5 position...  It took a *long*
time.  It hasn't been running that long here.  I don't recall the specifics
now, but I ran that test on a P6/200 that was totally idle for a month, and
I believe that it took multiple weeks..  It was far enough back in time that
I don't remember specifics now...

And note that "draw" is evaluation-specific...  IE the side that is behind
will go for the draw while the side that is "ahead" will avoid it if possible.
This is a version of crafty 18 months separated from the version that was tested
on the DB/Kasparov position.  Who knows what has changed internally since then.
My extensions are different, my evaluation is markedly different, my q-search
is different, etc...



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