Author: swaminathan natarajan
Date: 08:48:35 12/22/03
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On December 22, 2003 at 11:35:35, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote: >On December 22, 2003 at 11:26:05, swaminathan natarajan wrote: > >>On December 22, 2003 at 11:13:10, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote: >> >>>On December 22, 2003 at 10:59:37, swaminathan natarajan wrote: >>> >>>>Hi Reinhard, >>>> >>>>why Shuffle chess not so popular nowadays for testing chess engines >>>>i would pick shuffle chess rather than normal or FRC >>>> >>>>1.normal chess needs opening book >>>>2.most engine does not support FRC >>>> >>>>So,Shuffle chess is the best way to ESTIMATE programs playing strenght >>> >>>Hi swaminathan, >>> >>>in my opinion shuffle chess - without castling - is no real chess, >>>whereas FRC is a game superset fully including the traditonal chess! >>> >>>See: [http://www.rescon.de/Compu/fullchess1_e.html] (ten pages). >>> >>>Regards, Reinhard. >> >> >>Hi >> >>i doubt wheter all engines support Shuffle chess...... >>i know only a few engines(EL Baron,Hermann,Betsy etc)support FRC >> >>i like any kind of chess,Ruffian plays Shuffle chess but crafty doesnt >> >>some play,some dont >> >>i want all programs play from different start position >> >>thanks to your work in FRC! > >Hi swaminathan, > >there also are engines, which do not play shuffle chess correctly. May be they >are castling, when king and rook are placed at traditional places, may be >they do not understand shuffle chess starting positions at all. > >But you are right, until now there are much too less FRC enabled engines. > >Seriously spoken, there still are some minor problems implementing FRC or >using an FRC enabled GUI. The ARENA GUI has a leading implementation of it. > >But the reason for widly ignoring implementing FRC seems to be, that engine >writers like to cover opening weaknesses by using huge opening libraries. >But by that they also are avoiding progresses in developing that game phase. > >For that see: [http://www.rescon.de/Compu/schachfair_e.html] on fair engines. > >Regards, Reinhard. Hi Reinhard, thanks for replying, do you have any idea,where could one find engines that support Shuffle chess thanks
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