Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 02:49:23 12/23/03
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On December 23, 2003 at 05:36:34, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On December 23, 2003 at 05:17:27, Frank Quisinsky wrote: > >>On December 23, 2003 at 04:32:43, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >> >>>On December 23, 2003 at 04:00:35, Tony Werten wrote: >>> >>>>On December 23, 2003 at 02:04:56, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>> >>>>>(I see same result below yes.) Not a dream start - it indicates after only 4 >>>>>games, that Ruffian 99% sure is not at S7.04 level. It was start of Nunn match >>>>>ans R2 start to play better with total result 9 - 11. Same match againt Fritz8 >>>>>8,5-11,5. >>>>>These are good result and indicate, that Ruffian is may be 50 points improved, >>>>>which I consider enough to buy it! >>>>>At least one thing is sure: Ruffian is yhe strongest program in the world >>>>>WITHOUT copy protection (I am not sure about Lokasoft engines). >>>> >>>>Don't forget to claim that it is the strongest engine in the world that starts >>>>with an R and ends with uffian. >>> >>>Seriously, Tony. I doubt that there is another wb-engine which could do better >>>against Shredder. >>> >>>The claim Ruffian to be the strongest wb-engine seems quite reasonable to me. >>>Perhaps Bruce's private monster is the most serious candidate to throw doubts on >>>this. But Ferret isn't available; so we don't have too many results. >>> >>>Admittedly, it's a bit of an offensive style of advertising. >>>But doubtlessly, Perola has done an excellent job. >>> >>>Looking to the results published by Pablo in another post here >>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?337781 >>> >>>which is >>>PABLO-ILFE1CXZX, Blitz:9'+3 2003 >>> >>> 123456789012345678901234 >>>1 Shredder 7.04 00011½0½½1111110½0½11111 15.5/24 >>>2 Ruffian 2.0.0 11100½1½½0000001½1½00000 8.5/24 >>> >>>nicely demonstrates how unreliable a result of a 4-game match is. Fluctuations >>>are just too big to make conclusions. >>> >>>Have nice holidays, >>>Uli >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Tony >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Jouni >>>>> >>>>>PS. Season greetings to all here >> >>Hi there, >> >>against Shredder 7.04 is this a bad results !! >> >>In my 100 games match Ruffian 2.0.0 losed with 47,5 : 52,5 but Ruffian 2.0.0 >>have better results in a bigger group of amateur engines as Shredder 7.04 under >>Arena Chess GUI (Shredder don't play with his own book). Interesting is that >>Ruffian made 60% after 30 games with 40 moves in 5 minutes vs. Shredder 7.04! >> >>I wrote this last months! >>I believe that Ruffian 2.0.0 is a little bit more as 100 ELO stronger as Ruffian >>1.0.1 or maybe 80 ELO stronger as Ruffian 1.0.5 with 40 moves in 10 minutes on >>my Pentium IV 2,67 GHz Notebook. >> >>Today I saw the results from Alexander Schmidt in my forum. Ruffian is after >>more as 100 games 70 ELO stronger as Ruffian 1.0.5. >> >>Exactly 17 ELO more and Alexander have my ELO rating result after 600 games >>under Arena Chess GUI (played with Ruffian 2.0.0 test versions ... compare to >>Ruffian 1.0.5). >> >>The results vs. Shredder are very interesting because I am sure that Shredder is >>the number 1 for the moment. More interesting are games with longer time >>controls because its nice to see that Ruffian is very very strong in long time >>analyzes and switch the move often after 4-6 minutes on my Pentium IV 2,67 >>Notebook. Reason enough that Ruffian 2.0.0 is for me the most interesting >>engines for long time anlyzes _with_ Shredder 7.04 (I saw that Shredder 7.04 >>give me very very strong long time analyzes too). >> >>I am to 100% sure that Ruffian is the strongest WB engines in the World, >>speaking from engines which are commercial or free avaialble. I know only one >>amateur program which make a little bit more as 50% in longer matches vs. >>Ruffian but this engine is so far a private program but the results vs. other >>engines are not to strong compare to Ruffian 2.0.0! >> >>It's possible that Patriot is a little bit better as Ruffian 2.0.0! >>We will see ... >> >>Patriot is my second CD project! >>First results are in the next weeks available ... > >Is Patriot a totally new engine as Ruffian was 2 years ago, or it's a >known engine to the public with different name. > >And in how many games and in what time control it beats Ruffian 2.0? > -------------- ------------ Hi, the complete Patriot information are secret for the moment! In this case its better for the programmer and for me as producer! Reason is easy: I have more time for the organization of this project and I need the time because Patriot is not my once still running project! Best Frank
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