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Subject: CCC people "There is yet another strongest winboard engine in the world"

Author: swaminathan natarajan

Date: 03:15:58 12/23/03

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On December 23, 2003 at 05:17:27, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>On December 23, 2003 at 04:32:43, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>
>>On December 23, 2003 at 04:00:35, Tony Werten wrote:
>>
>>>On December 23, 2003 at 02:04:56, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>(I see same result below yes.) Not a dream start - it indicates after only 4
>>>>games, that Ruffian 99% sure is not at S7.04 level. It was start of Nunn match
>>>>ans R2 start to play better with total result 9 - 11. Same match againt Fritz8
>>>>8,5-11,5.
>>>>These are good result and indicate, that Ruffian is may be 50 points improved,
>>>>which I consider enough to buy it!
>>>>At least one thing is sure: Ruffian is yhe strongest program in the world
>>>>WITHOUT copy protection (I am not sure about Lokasoft engines).
>>>
>>>Don't forget to claim that it is the strongest engine in the world that starts
>>>with an R and ends with uffian.
>>
>>Seriously, Tony. I doubt that there is another wb-engine which could do better
>>against Shredder.
>>
>>The claim Ruffian to be the strongest wb-engine seems quite reasonable to me.
>>Perhaps Bruce's private monster is the most serious candidate to throw doubts on
>>this. But Ferret isn't available; so we don't have too many results.
>>
>>Admittedly, it's a bit of an offensive style of advertising.
>>But doubtlessly, Perola has done an excellent job.
>>
>>Looking to the results published by Pablo in another post here
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?337781
>>
>>which is
>>PABLO-ILFE1CXZX, Blitz:9'+3  2003
>>
>>                   123456789012345678901234
>>1   Shredder 7.04  00011½0½½1111110½0½11111 15.5/24
>>2   Ruffian 2.0.0  11100½1½½0000001½1½00000  8.5/24
>>
>>nicely demonstrates how unreliable a result of a 4-game match is. Fluctuations
>>are just too big to make conclusions.
>>
>>Have nice holidays,
>>Uli
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>>>
>>>>PS. Season greetings to all here
>
>Hi there,
>
>against Shredder 7.04 is this a bad results !!
>
>In my 100 games match Ruffian 2.0.0 losed with 47,5 : 52,5 but Ruffian 2.0.0
>have better results in a bigger group of amateur engines as Shredder 7.04 under
>Arena Chess GUI (Shredder don't play with his own book). Interesting is that
>Ruffian made 60% after 30 games with 40 moves in 5 minutes vs. Shredder 7.04!
>
>I wrote this last months!
>I believe that Ruffian 2.0.0 is a little bit more as 100 ELO stronger as Ruffian
>1.0.1 or maybe 80 ELO stronger as Ruffian 1.0.5 with 40 moves in 10 minutes on
>my Pentium IV 2,67 GHz Notebook.
>
>Today I saw the results from Alexander Schmidt in my forum. Ruffian is after
>more as 100 games 70 ELO stronger as Ruffian 1.0.5.
>
>Exactly 17 ELO more and Alexander have my ELO rating result after 600 games
>under Arena Chess GUI (played with Ruffian 2.0.0 test versions ... compare to
>Ruffian 1.0.5).
>
>The results vs. Shredder are very interesting because I am sure that Shredder is
>the number 1 for the moment. More interesting are games with longer time
>controls because its nice to see that Ruffian is very very strong in long time
>analyzes and switch the move often after 4-6 minutes on my Pentium IV 2,67
>Notebook. Reason enough that Ruffian 2.0.0 is for me the most interesting
>engines for long time anlyzes _with_ Shredder 7.04 (I saw that Shredder 7.04
>give me very very strong long time analyzes too).
>
>I am to 100% sure that Ruffian is the strongest WB engines in the World,
>speaking from engines which are commercial or free avaialble. I know only one
>amateur program which make a little bit more as 50% in longer matches vs.
>Ruffian but this engine is so far a private program but the results vs. other
>engines are not to strong compare to Ruffian 2.0.0!
>
>It's possible that Patriot is a little bit better as Ruffian 2.0.0!
>We will see ...
>
>Patriot is my second CD project!
>First results are in the next weeks available ...
>
>Best
>Frank



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